Teachings Collection 1


A Different Song - 1998 - Article

Does God Speak - 1/1998 - Article

The Perversion Of A True Anointing - 7/1998 - Article

1+9+9+9 - 1/1999 - Article

1999 Fun and Games - 1/1999 - Article

A Reincarnation (a response to The King of the Babylon) - 3/1998 - Article

A Response To Julie Baxter’s Post - 2/1999 - Article

Holy Indignation versus the American Apostasy - 1999 - Article

Humanism And The Moral Imperative - 4/1999 - Article

Last Call - 4/1999 - Article

No King - Article

No King In Israel (or As He Leads...) - 10/1999 - Article

Teshuvah And The Transgressions - 9/1998 - Article

The Three Witnesses - 2/1999 - Article

The Thunder, The Trumpet And The Seal - 9/1999 - Article

Too Little Too Late The Judgment Comes - 8/1999 - Article




A Different Song

Bob Neumann, 1998

Sometimes ya gotta laugh when KING JESUS gets into a pattern. I woke up from a very sound and refreshing sleep, with a REGGAE tune playing in my head, soul, and spirit. Pulsing base. Pounding drums. Catchy repetitive lyrics. And one scripture verse. Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness, who put bitter for sweet and sweet for bitter.

And I am in Isaiah 5 and THE SONG OF THE VINEYARD. And I wondered just how MANY TIMES has THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT led me here over the years. And I got the shakes. I realized ABBA will send me back to HIS VINEYARD over and over till either I learn the lesson intended. Or I get the message out. Either WAY it is all about ABBA.

HIS WILL. HIS KINGDOM. So anyone really wonder why I take things sort of serious one moment. And then the next I’m cackling like a mad man? Try this one out.

24 Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the LORD Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel.

Now I surely don’t want anyone to think I take this personally. But I know THE LAMB does. You see, HE IS THE WORD. And every now and then HE reminds me about it.

15 Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and every slave and every free man hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains.

16 They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb!

17 For the great day of their wrath has come, and who can stand?”

YA TA HEH. Verse

17. REV 6 is also a rhetorical question. “Who can stand against THE LAMB OF GOD?” I have a few answers. Vulgar, but spiritually correct. I hold neither respect or esteem for the SERPENT or his SEED. And that too, is scriptural, part of the first prophecy in the entire WORD OF GOD.

8 And they heard the voice of the LORD God walking in the garden in the cool of the day: and Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the LORD God amongst the trees of the garden.

9 And the LORD God called unto Adam, and said unto him, Where art thou?

10 And he said, I heard thy voice in the garden, and I was afraid, because I was naked; and I hid myself.

11 And he said, Who told thee that thou wast naked? Hast thou eaten of the tree, whereof I commanded thee that thou shouldest not eat?

12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

13 And the LORD God said unto the woman, What is this that thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat.

14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou art cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

Anyone else hear the sound of THE LORD GOD walking. Or is it just me and THE HOLY SPIRIT BOOM Box


I am / have been listening to? Oh, I haven’t told you the song I am now humming. Everyone knows it. I imagine.


Bad boys, bad boys. whatcha gonna do when they come for you. ??????” Like I said, THE LORD OF HOSTS, whose NAME IS JEALOUS, has a sense of humor. A very serious sense of humor. And HE ALWAYS GETS THE LAST WORD. Like in Isaiah 5.

25 Therefore the LORD’s anger burns against his people; his hand is raised and he strikes them down. The mountains shake, and the dead bodies are like refuse in the streets. Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away, his hand is still upraised.

26 He lifts up a banner for the distant nations, he whistles for those at the ends of the earth. Here they come, swiftly and speedily!

27 Not one of them grows tired or stumbles, not one slumbers or sleeps; not a belt is loosened at the waist, not a sandal thong is broken.

28 Their arrows are sharp, all their bows are strung; their horses’ hoofs seem like flint, their chariot wheels like a whirlwind.

29 Their roar is like that of the lion, they roar like young lions; they growl as they seize their prey and carry it off with no one to rescue.

30 In that day they will roar over it like the roaring of the sea. And if one looks at the land, he will see darkness and distress; even the light will be darkened by the clouds.

And I wonder, when “they” call good evil, and bitter sweet, what they gonna call “us”?


Old dog in dreadlocks




Does God Speak?

Bob Neuman, 01/25/1998

For years now there has been a debate within this thing called the 'church' about whether certain things are of God, or not. One of these areas of contention has been the area loosely labeled as "The Prophetic." I cannot use the term discussion any longer because over the last few years all attempts at civility have been dropped it seems. In the last few weeks I have seen a new gladiator in the rhetorical arena that is most disturbing.

At one time the issue solely was based on the content of the verbal "utterance" or the written "prophecy." And most mature Christians could "judge" according to the scriptures as the Bereans did in Act 3:17. In fact Paul's writings make a point that we are all required to judge everything against the "Word." And as time has passed an interesting series of "litmus" tests began to spring up.

Instead of seeing whether the content lined up with scripture, the level of critique changed. Instead of pointing out scriptural error the "Defenders of the Faith" began to point out errors in spelling and punctuation. Grammatical errors and typos were dug up and "brought to light." The area of debate changed from what he said, to how he said it. Style and rhythm of delivery was more important that the message itself.

So often the message was "lost".

The next area they centered on was the "Messenger." The message was ignored as the delivery system's conduit was dissected. The importance of what was said mattered little if the messenger did not fit the criteria. And the can of worms got bigger. What is the "Reputation" of this individual? What is their title, position, education, affiliation, age, sex, appearance... So eventually the messenger was "killed."

And foolish me I thought they could now go no farther. The message was lost; the messenger was "killed". The only one left was the Master, the source of the message. In my mind there was no way they could negate GOD. But it has not stopped them from trying.

In the last few weeks I have had passed on to me several statements that left me quite amazed. One individual simply stated that all "extra-biblical" writings were of Satan. Simple statement on his part, no words minced so to speak. Another biblical scholar was a little wordier but basically said all inspiration has ceased on the compiling of present canon. Therefore there is no further need for GOD to add to what is presently in the BIBLE. To say that any work has been "inspired" is an attempt to expand the BIBLE. Any effort to add to or to expand upon canon is not of God. One older gentleman simply declared that no man has the right to say he speaks for GOD. That is true if we are attempting to replace GOD, but we are not.

The problem that this older gentleman must deal with is whether GOD chooses to speak through man. He and those who have stood on these positions have painted themselves into a very curious corner. No longer are they content with discrediting the message. Assaulting the messenger did not solve the problem. Now they must deal with the source and this becomes interesting.

At this point I could argue using the simple text of the scripture. But what good would or will it do. To get to their position they have had to trample and ignore the Word of God repeatedly. To arrive at their destination that GOD no longer does what God always did we must accept the fact that GOD has changed. In spite of His Own Words in the Bible.

Yet in this "Quantum Leap" they have made there is a unique paradox created. Their argument of whether GOD does or does not speak today to His people has been expanded to the simple level of "inspiration." GOD no longer inspires.... But when did He stop? They say when canon was completed.

Simple deductive logic would show that if this were true, that all that has transpired for 1900 years has had nothing to do with GOD. In fact theirs premise declares that everything outside of the Bible is of the enemy - the deceiver.

I guess that lumps all of us with the likes of Luther, Wesley, Chambers, Sturgeon, Moody, Watts, Matthew Henry etc....

But let me turn it all around, logically, deductively, scientifically.

If GOD NO longer speaks, no longer breaths inspiration to those who seek Him, then we indeed have a conundrum. GOD, according to scripture, breaths ...it is repeated in scripture if anyone cares to look. He does so because HE says HE IS A LIVING GOD. Again scriptures states this over and over. These so called ''scholars" are saying GOD does not speak, GOD does not breath.

Any intelligent human knows that when something that is alive ceases to breath, life as we know it ceases. So they are strongly implying that GOD IS DEAD. Now where have I heard that before?

If my limited memory and intelligence serves me, past so called "scholars" have said the same thing....Voltaire, Nietze, Marx, Hegel, Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Hitler...and this list can go on and on and on ....

But I need to leave the arena and personalize this. As a child I was taught to knell beside my bed and to say "prayers." I was taught that GOD heard and GOD answered. As a child this gave me peace and comfort. In time I out grew those prayers and learned religion. And like many I mistook religion for GOD, and was abused and hurt. Many years and many hurts later I found myself in a pit of my own making.... lost, alone, hopeless, suicidal. Instead of pulling the trigger of a 357 magnum, I prayed in simple desperation. And He answered. Did I hear a "voice". In my case yes. But the answer was also a sudden peace and comfort I did not ask for, nor did I deserve. When you "hear" His Voice, "feel" His Breath, it is because you are aware of His Presence in your life.

To say that Almighty GOD cannot, does not, will not speak either to or through His children mocks GOD for being a loving Father. And if God does not speak any more, what good is prayer? If God hears but is refrained from answering, why even say that He does hear? Prayer is now a useless babbling without purpose and without effect. Sorry James, they threw you out with God it seems.

Prayer is conversation, and while I have been the victim of many one sided conversations, to imagine prayer as simply one sided with GOD being quiet all the time is invalid. Prayer is the sharing of time, ideas, dreams with our ABBA. Prayer is where fellowship begins. To negate the effective power of prayer fellowship is eliminated. Because fellowship is where relationship is established the elimination of fellowship prevents all relationship. And without relationship there is no intimacy without ABBA.

Without intimacy there is no ABBA; period.

And without the love of my ABBA, the presence of His Spirit, the friendship of His Son life is not worth living. As a modern psalmist sings today "Life would be Hell, and Hell is forever...but Hallelujah!...Blessed be the Lord, and Lamb by His Side."

Some may say that my whole position is based on some "emotional experience"....my answer is "y-u-p!". Both ways. It is an experience, and it has been emotional. But big deal. If your basic premise leads to "God is dead" I do not expect your "god" having any 'emotion' either.

It is strange. Joshua said, "choose you this day whom you will serve"...I never anticipated a "modern Christian" manufacturing a "god" that suits themselves. But I should have. If you do not choose to "serve the LORD", you have to make up something you will serve.

Will anything I have wrote sway any hearts? I doubt it. Nor do I claim it for anything more than my own thoughts placed on paper. Am I creating a more pronounced dividing line for the "Us" vs. "them" types that enjoy sitting back and mocking everyone and anyone. I hope I can do more.

I would love to dig a huge trench and line it with razor wire to separate the wolves from my Master's Lambs and Sheep. But the wolves within the fold have always sought the weakest and the defenseless. So if I cannot separate them maybe I can keep the wolves occupied with me while their time runs out.




The Perversion Of A True Anointing

Bob Neumann, 7/1998

One of the most difficult images we must force ourselves to acknowledge is the issue of a perversion of a Holy Anointing/Divine Calling. There are those who may be disturbed that anyone would even dare state that such a thing is possible. But they are in great need of being awakened and told to search the WORD. THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT has given us images, both good and bad, for us to learn and to understand. Such is this specific lesson out of the book of Judges.... We all know the concept of prophetic shadows that rise up in the OT and point forward to JESUS. This story is a “what could have been”, making it an “antitype” of what JESUS WAS NOT. And this character is a Judge named Samson. What is interesting is his story begins in chapter 13; not overly auspicious. And appears after Israel had suffered for 40 years at the hands of the Philistines. It all really begins with THE ANGEL OF THE LORD telling an unnamed barren woman that she would bear a son; but it was conditional.

4 Now therefore beware, I pray thee, and drink not wine nor strong drink, and eat not any unclean thing:

5 For, lo, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and no razor shall come on his head: for the child shall be a Nazarite unto God from the womb: and he shall begin to deliver Israel out of the hand of the Philistines.

Strange isn’t it, that an angel would show up one day and things would happen. Of course the woman had to tell her husband.

6 Then the woman came and told her husband, saying, A man of God came unto me, and his countenance was like the countenance of an angel of God, very terrible: but I asked him not whence he was, neither told he me his name:

Interestingly this is one of the few “angelic visitations” recorded in the whole OT. Yet today such occurrences seem to be becoming quite common. But few of ‘our’ angels would be described as “very terrible” which makes you wonder.

7 But he said unto me, Behold, thou shalt conceive, and bear a son; and now drink no wine nor strong drink, neither eat any unclean thing: for the child shall be a Nazarite to God from the womb to the day of his death.

This was the original idea; and we had better remember this fact.

8 Then Manoah intreated the LORD, and said, O my Lord, let the man of God which thou didst send come again unto us, and teach us what we shall do unto the child that shall be born.

9 And God hearkened to the voice of Manoah; and the angel of God came again unto the woman as she sat in the field: but Manoah her husband was not with her.

10 And the woman made haste, and ran, and shewed her husband, and said unto him, Behold, the man hath appeared unto me, that came unto me the other day.

11 And Manoah arose, and went after his wife, and came to the man, and said unto him, Art thou the man that spakest unto the woman? And he said, I am.

Theoretically this could have been any old angel until HE stated those two WORDS I AM. And we have a stronger understanding of THE ANGEL OF THE LORD.

But the story continues.

12 And Manoah said, Now let thy words come to pass. How shall we order the child, and how shall we do unto him?

13 And the angel of the LORD said unto Manoah, Of all that I said unto the woman let her beware.

14 She may not eat of any thing that cometh of the vine, neither let her drink wine or strong drink, nor eat any unclean thing: all that I commanded her let her observe.

Let’s look at this line again and try to understand that GOD is really asking more of one person here than in any other story within the bible, Jeremiah, David, Daniel, Samuel, Moses, whoever. And it is a woman; hubby is just along for the ride.

14 She may not eat of any thing that cometh of the vine, neither let her drink wine or strong drink, nor eat any unclean thing: all that I commanded her let her observe.

15 And Manoah said unto the angel of the LORD, I pray thee, let us detain thee, until we shall have made ready a kid for thee.

16 And the angel of the LORD said unto Manoah, Though thou detain me, I will not eat of thy bread: and if thou wilt offer a burnt offering, thou must offer it unto the LORD. For Manoah knew not that he was an angel of the LORD.

17 And Manoah said unto the angel of the LORD, What is thy name, that when thy sayings come to pass we may do thee honour?

18 And the angel of the LORD said unto him, Why askest thou thus after my name, seeing it is secret?

This makes us think of a certain white horse rider in Rev 19 whose name no one knows but is KING OF KINGS and LORD OF LORDS.

19 So Manoah took a kid with a meat offering, and offered it upon a rock unto the LORD: and the angel did wondrously; and Manoah and his wife looked on.

20 For it came to pass, when the flame went up toward heaven from off the altar, that the angel of the LORD ascended in the flame of the altar. And Manoah and his wife looked on it, and fell on their faces to the ground.

21 But the angel of the LORD did no more appear to Manoah and to his wife. Then Manoah knew that he was an angel of the LORD.

22 And Manoah said unto his wife, We shall surely die, because we have seen God.

Regrettably this is how man always reacts to HIS PRESENCE.... and usually a little late in the story. Now I end with vs. 22.....Ol’ Samson is born in vs. 24 where it simply states. “and the LORD BLESSED him”.

Chapters 14 and 15 cover 20 years of ministry, if you call war and mayhem as ministry. Which at that time was necessary. While chapters 14 and 15 describe his problems with pagan women it appears GOD used it to make war on the Philistines. This changes in chapter 16, and certain harlots/loose women.

Friend Samson has a lust problem, and we know sin makes you stupid. Ol’ Samson gets dumber as the story goes on. One has to wonder how “dead asleep” he was for lil’ Delilah to tie him up several times, braid his hair to a loom shuttle, and eventually shave his head. In spite of his adultery has our Nazarite broken his vow by drinking himself into a stupor? It seems the case. Either way the greatly blessed Samson has a rude awakening in Judges 16:20

20 And she said, The Philistines be upon thee, Samson. And he awoke out of his sleep, and said, I will go out as at other times before, and shake myself. And he wist not that the LORD was departed from him.

Samson was later blinded and tied to the Philistine grist mill to serve the enemy of GOD. And this is our image for our antitype. A man/woman is anointed and serving GOD powerfully. Then one day sin enters in and the giftings of the anointing are taken for granted. And because the ‘person’ continues to be used in “signs and wonders” their sin is winked upon. They are often spiritually deaf to the words of warning that come repeatedly. So when the enemy strikes the spiritual eyes that are plucked out had been clouded long time earlier.

Today many once anointed people tread the saints of GOD in Satan’s grist mill working completely in the flesh...in their own strength because they stopped hearing GOD long ago. And they are equally blind to all that is of GOD. And I wished the story ended there but it does not. Although the end is dramatic it only proves GOD can use even unrepentant, degenerate, reprobate children.....

28 And Samson called unto the LORD, and said, O Lord GOD, remember me, I pray thee, and strengthen me, I pray thee, only this once, O God, that I may be at once avenged of the Philistines for my two eyes.

Regrettably there is no repentance in this prayer, just fleshly vengeance.

29 And Samson took hold of the two middle pillars upon which the house stood, and on which it was borne up, of the one with his right hand, and of the other with his left.

30 And Samson said, Let me die with the Philistines. And he bowed himself with all his might; and the house fell upon the lords, and upon all the people that were therein. So the dead which he slew at his death were more than they which he slew in his life.

And GOD obliged him and he died avenging himself. Strange story in many ways but the fact that Samson never knew when GOD departed and assumed he had his strength when he did not. Likewise too many today are busily building their ministries unaware of where FATHER GOD is in their lives.

Were they anointed? Maybe, but they don’t have it any more. Even after 20 years of good service, or even more. Just ask KING SAUL.


Bob in Miami





Bob Neumann, 1/1999

In the next few days and weeks there will be a number of people eager to explain the spiritual significance of the numerical 1999. Being an ardent admirer of GOD’S sense of humor I have already been “blessed” by a couple of such posts. In essence they are declaring Year of Jubilee, or blessing, or prosperity, or harvest. Likewise they are exhorting people to “win souls” and battle the darkness. All are nice things. But nothing real new.

I heard/read one person speak of Christian numerology and had to laugh. Numerology is a counterfeit that employs divination. It is of the enemy and is not of GOD. On the other hand we are told to study to show ourselves approved, and the KEY word here is counterfeit. In HEBREW their alphabet is also their numerical system.

It has 22 letters as we would define them, but there are strange rules we do not use.

Even the word “alphabet” originates in the ancient HEBREW....not the Greek. The ALEPH-BEIT to the ancient scholars was given to man by GOD.

So the ALEPH-BEIT is the means GOD transmits HIS DIRECTION to mankind. Each ‘letter’ has specific meaning and numerical value. It also is a musical note. According to our musical scale the ALEPH-BEIT is a perfect representation of three octaves, which is the normal range of a trained human singing voice.

Now many of you have heard the term Kaballah and all the occultic connotations. Yet it’s origin was purely the study of GOD’S WORD. Like all things a good beginning does not end well. In HEBREW there is a term for the study of numbers and it is called GEMATRIA. Many Christians have read the classic text by E.W. Bullinger, NUMBER IN SCRIPTURE to explain what the 9 9 9 of this year 1999 signifies. They will say that the number “9” speaks of an image of “objective good”. That three nines says it will be a year of great blessing....and whatever they add from their agenda.

What you have to know is that some of these well minded people “edited out” some of what Dr Bullinger wrote. Likewise most do not know his source of information, which was the ancient rabbinical scholars.

The ninth letter of the ALEPH-BEIT is the “letter”....TET. And it is the # “9”. Like all Hebrew letters it is an image....TET is the symbol of the serpent. As we all know THE WORD of GOD is a TWO EDGED SWORD. All the characters of the ALEPH-BEIT has a dual meaning. It first appears in the 4th verse in Gen. 1 in the word “tov”.....and GOD SAW IT WAS ‘GOOD’....that is where the GOOD comes from, the OBJECTIVE is the KEY to understanding. Rabbi Michael L. Munk writes in his book THE WISDOM OF THE HEBREW ALPHABET... “Man longs for a ‘good’ life, ‘good’ health, ‘good’ business, a ‘good’ year. But what is good? Success is often ephemeral and prosperity corrupting, while set backs and adversity often set the stage for advancement and triumph. Only God knows what is truly, objectively good for man.”...page 119.

For this reason TET also symbolizes finality and judgement. Man so often does what is right in his own eyes without regard to the WILL or HEART of GOD. The WORD says that all will be judged by fire. All our works of wood, hay, and stubble will surely burn.

That is “good” from GOD’S point of view. HE knows the difference between the GOLD and the dross....we can’t. We were told “to count it as joy” when things go bad for us. To rejoice during the trials and the troubles. Do we?

Rabbi Munk later states... “According to the MIDRASH, TET alludes to (tiet), mud, and is symbolic of physical matter from which man’s body was created and to which he will return.... Without faith people could consider certain events that befall them to be as foul and as unwanted as mud. However, in his awareness of GOD’S eternal beneficence, the righteous person trusts that “ whatever the Merciful One does, HE does for the best.”

Can we trust GOD for the best in the midst of trial and persecution? Through the flood and through the fire?

1999 is the year of Final Judgement. Either we will put our trust in HIM and simply obey whatever He asks of us. Or we will not, and pay the consequences. We can not say we were not warned long enough, or loud enough. It will be a year of reward for the good and faithful. It will be a year of HIS POWER and GLORY manifested. But also remember how HE manifested that POWER and GLORY in the past. Then again remember HE NEVER CHANGES.....and HIS NAME IS JEALOUS.

Go see the movie PRINCE of EGYPT.....not a bad portrayal of the events. Might remind some who forgot some of the basics....like the first commandment or two or three or......

1+ 9 + 9 + 9 = 28. 7 + 7 + 7 + 7 = 28.......judgement must come....the fire and purification must come before THE KING establishes HIS KINGDOM out of JERUSALEM.







1999: Fun and Games?

Bob Neumann, 1/1999

WELL, I guess I still haven’t a clue, but here goes nothing.

This is long and nasty, but it is interesting to say the least. You asked for “stuff” about 1999 and what lies ahead. I’m not sure if anyone really wants to know. If we play by the old rules few in the church want to be warned of what lies ahead. They want to be entertained and told cute and smooth stuff that comforts and keeps that “feel good” feeling going.

Below were my comments for the new year, and it was sent at the right time and to the right people. -----


Original Message-----

From: The Neumann’s


Date: Monday, September 21, 1998 8:04 AM




Shortly many of GOD’S Prophets will come forward and share what the SOVEREIGN LORD has spoken to them during this time called THE DAYS of AWE. PLEASE. Listen and obey the RHEMA you receive. Listen with discerning ears and contrite hearts. The year of the JUBILEE has ended. The YEAR of FAVOR is completed. The TIMES AND SEASONS have changed as HIS WORD declared from the beginning. The ‘acceptable year’ has run its course. Only one thing is left to come to pass.

Isaiah 61:

1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

If we do not prepare ourselves to comfort and aid the “least of these” we will be of no use to THE MASTER and HIS KINGDOM. Many will teach and speak of 1999, which on ABBA’S calendar began at sundown and Psalm 99. But you must listen and obey lest you fulfill the last verses of Ezekiel 33. Seek the LORD while HE may be found! !

Psalm 99:

1 The LORD reigneth; let the people tremble: he sitteth [between] the cherubims; let the earth be moved.

2 The LORD [is] great in Zion; and he [is] high above all the people.

3 Let them praise thy great and terrible name; [for] it [is] holy.

4 The king’s strength also loveth judgment; thou dost establish equity, thou executest judgment and righteousness in Jacob.

5 Exalt ye the LORD our God, and worship at his footstool; [for] he [is] holy.

6 Moses and Aaron among his priests, and Samuel among them that call upon his name; they called upon the LORD, and he answered them.

7 He spake unto them in the cloudy pillar: they kept his testimonies, and the ordinance [that] he gave them.

8 Thou answeredst them, O LORD our God: thou wast a God that forgavest them, though thou tookest vengeance of their inventions.

9 Exalt the LORD our God, and worship at his holy hill; for the LORD our God [is] holy. (KJV)

Call upon the wall unto the LORD, intercede as SAMUEL and MOSES did until the HEAVENS are closed. The day shortly comes where HE will no longer contend with rebellious man. The day is upon us where we will be tried and proven in the furnace of affliction. There is a day where THE HOLY ONE WILL NOT HEAR OUR PRAYERS for a people who have ignored HIS WARNINGS, and MOCKED HIS LAMB, and GRIEVED HIS MOST HOLY SPIRIT.

And it will shortly be.

Jeremiah 15:

1 Then said the LORD unto me, Though Moses and Samuel stood before me, [yet] my mind [could] not [be] toward this people: cast [them] out of my sight, and let them go forth.

2 And it shall come to pass, if they say unto thee, Whither shall we go forth? then thou shalt tell them, Thus saith the LORD; Such as [are] for death, to death; and such as [are] for the sword, to the sword; and such as [are] for the famine, to the famine; and such as [are] for the captivity, to the captivity.

3 And I will appoint over them four kinds, saith the LORD: the sword to slay, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy.

4 And I will cause them to be removed into all kingdoms of the earth, because of Manasseh the son of Hezekiah king of Judah, for [that] which he did in Jerusalem.

5 For who shall have pity upon thee, O Jerusalem? or who shall bemoan thee? or who shall go aside to ask how thou doest?

6 Thou hast forsaken me, saith the LORD, thou art gone backward: therefore will I stretch out my hand against thee, and destroy thee; I am weary with repenting.

7 And I will fan them with a fan in the gates of the land; I will bereave [them] of children, I will destroy my people, [since] they return not from their ways.

8 Their widows are increased to me above the sand of the seas: I have brought upon them against the mother of the young men a spoiler at noonday: I have caused [him] to fall upon it suddenly, and terrors upon the city.

9 She that hath borne seven languisheth: she hath given up the ghost; her sun is gone down while [it was] yet day: she hath been ashamed and confounded: and the residue of them will I deliver to the sword before their enemies, saith the LORD.

10 Woe is me, my mother, that thou hast borne me a man of strife and a man of contention to the whole earth! I have neither lent on usury, nor men have lent to me on usury; [yet] every one of them doth curse me.

11 The LORD said, Verily it shall be well with thy remnant; verily I will cause the enemy to entreat thee [well] in the time of evil and in the time of affliction.

12 Shall iron break the northern iron and the steel?

13 Thy substance and thy treasures will I give to the spoil without price, and [that] for all thy sins, even in all thy borders.

14 And I will make [thee] to pass with thine enemies into a land [which] thou knowest not: for a fire is kindled in mine anger, [which] shall burn upon you.

15 O LORD, thou knowest: remember me, and visit me, and revenge me of my persecutors; take me not away in thy longsuffering: know that for thy sake I have suffered rebuke.

16 Thy words were found, and I did eat them; and thy word was unto me the joy and rejoicing of mine heart: for I am called by thy name, O LORD God of hosts.

17 I sat not in the assembly of the mockers, nor rejoiced; I sat alone because of thy hand: for thou hast filled me with indignation.

18 Why is my pain perpetual, and my wound incurable, [which] refuseth to be healed? wilt thou be altogether unto me as a liar, [and as] waters [that] fail?

19 Therefore thus saith the LORD, If thou return, then will I bring thee again, [and] thou shalt stand before me: and if thou take forth the precious from the vile, thou shalt be as my mouth: let them return unto thee; but return not thou unto them.

20 And I will make thee unto this people a fenced brasen wall: and they shall fight against thee, but they shall not prevail against thee: for I [am] with thee to save thee and to deliver thee, saith the LORD.

21 And I will deliver thee out of the hand of the wicked, and I will redeem thee out of the hand of the terrible. (KJV)

For those who will be proven faithful we are safe in HIS WILL . even in goshen selah

Old Dog in Goshen


Now that was back a few months ago, and there is nothing to be changed in what was said.

Yet I’ve been to some places I had not imagined since then and have wrestled long and hard, cried bitterly and shouted into the night, and it made little difference. But following my typical pattern I persisted till ABBA gave me a direction to dig, and I got no where. Or so I thought. Then one Tuesday the phone ran off the hook and the emails flooded in. The topic was Bill Clinton and trouble coming to AMERICA. And I took it casually, nothing new to me. And Wednesday came and I got a DIVINE ONE LINER. AMERICA CAN DISH IT OUT, BUT CAN SHE TAKE IT !

That Sunday the THIRD THUNDER had been released out of long struggle, and what does not kill me only makes me stronger, true, but it still hurts. That morning I wrestled with my MASTER, the sense of something horrible awaiting, I could not shake. And HE hit me as hard as I had ever been hit.

I had an image in my spirit that mirrored what John described in Rev 1. And a single scripture verse.

Jeremiah 14:

So I attacked it with everything I had in me, and when it finished I wished I had not. Below is the letter I sent to Bill Burns because I really thought I had maybe gone too far.

It is fairly straightforward. Yet I now wonder if I did not go far enough. No one has asked question one on the THIRD THUNDER. So I guess everyone is safe and snug.

Then why am I still weeping. I was told to stop praying for “those people”.

But I’m not sure who they all are. Those I can still pray for are suddenly very few.


Dear Bill,

Another bad night as I struggle to understand. Yet I was pointed in a direction and tried to follow a thread. Below is an effort to explain it, mostly scripture with some commentary. It seems to make sense. Or am I stretching for something that is not there. I want it to be there, but I fear falling into deception.



There are times when I hear the VOICE of MY MASTER and I am taken back at the TONE of HIS VOICE. Sometimes it is the content that leaves me shaking and spent. Then there are those times where the VEHEMENCE and utter POWER just can not be conveyed. Man can not put into words the sensations only appreciated by the spirit man. Of such was the declarative warning for the prophets who choose to continue to do personal prophecy to entertain those in rebellion.

When I approached the MOST HOLY SPIRIT to explain this JUDGEMENT I was told to seek the PERFECTED PROPHETIC. So I looked and found nothing.

Then Sunday morning I was lead to the FIRST LIGHT. The SHAMISH, and followed it forward and then back. I was given the Pattern and the Sequence. Let those who have ears to hear, eyes to see, and hearts that will diligently seek.

The Center Light was found in Jeremiah 14:14. (7+7+7+7). Selah. The first appears in JOB 14:1. And works it’s way through. 7, 14 ,21 .

Job 14:

1 Man that is born of a woman is of few days, and full of trouble.

2 He cometh forth like a flower, and is cut down: he fleeth also as a shadow, and continueth not.

3 And dost thou open thine eyes upon such an one, and bringest me into judgment with thee?

4 Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? not one.

5 Seeing his days are determined, the number of his months are with thee, thou hast appointed his bounds that he cannot pass;

6 Turn from him, that he may rest, till he shall accomplish, as an hireling, his day.

7 For there is hope of a tree, if it be cut down, that it will sprout again, and that the tender branch thereof will not cease.

8 Though the root thereof wax old in the earth, and the stock thereof die in the ground;

9 Yet through the scent of water it will bud, and bring forth boughs like a plant.

10 But man dieth, and wasteth away: yea, man giveth up the ghost, and where is he?

11 As the waters fail from the sea, and the flood decayeth and drieth up:

12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.

13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!

14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.

15 Thou shalt call, and I will answer thee: thou wilt have a desire to the work of thine hands.

16 For now thou numberest my steps: dost thou not watch over my sin?

17 My transgression is sealed up in a bag, and thou sewest up mine iniquity.

18 And surely the mountain falling cometh to nought, and the rock is removed out of his place.

19 The waters wear the stones: thou washest away the things which grow out of the dust of the earth; and thou destroyest the hope of man.

20 Thou prevailest for ever against him, and he passeth: thou changest his countenance, and sendest him away.

21 His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them.

22 But his flesh upon him shall have pain, and his soul within him shall mourn. (KJV)

Verse 1 states MAN is appointed to die, our fate if rebirth does not occur. And is given in verse 7. Verse 14 and 21 follow through the image of sin and iniquity with the finite nature of man without the intervention of GOD.

This is carried through at the beginning of the second light.

Psalm 14:

1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David. The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

4 Have all the workers of iniquity no knowledge? who eat up my people as they eat bread, and call not upon the LORD.

5 There were they in great fear: for God is in the generation of the righteous.

6 Ye have shamed the counsel of the poor, because the LORD is his refuge.

7 Oh that the salvation of Israel were come out of Zion! when the LORD bringeth back the captivity of his people, Jacob shall rejoice, and Israel shall be glad. (KJV)

Verses 1-4 speak of man without relationship, with no FEAR OF THE LORD, and the outcome. Yet there is a promise .14:7. That SALVATION IS COME OUT OF ZION, which brings deliverance, joy, happiness/blessing.

Now here is where the fun begins, the cause and solution for the state of SIN in MAN.

Isaiah 14:

1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob.

2 And the people shall take them, and bring them to their place: and the house of Israel shall possess them in the land of the LORD for servants and handmaids: and they shall take them captives, whose captives they were; and they shall rule over their oppressors.

3 And it shall come to pass in the day that the LORD shall give thee rest from thy sorrow, and from thy fear, and from the hard bondage wherein thou wast made to serve,

4 That thou shalt take up this proverb against the king of Babylon, and say, How hath the oppressor ceased! the golden city ceased!

5 The LORD hath broken the staff of the wicked, and the sceptre of the rulers.

6 He who smote the people in wrath with a continual stroke, he that ruled the nations in anger, is persecuted, and none hindereth.

7 The whole earth is at rest, and is quiet: they break forth into singing.

8 Yea, the fir trees rejoice at thee, and the cedars of Lebanon, saying, Since thou art laid down, no feller is come up against us.

9 Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations.

10 All they shall speak and say unto thee, Art thou also become weak as we? art thou become like unto us?

11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.

12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

18 All the kings of the nations, even all of them, lie in glory, every one in his own house.

19 But thou art cast out of thy grave like an abominable branch, and as the raiment of those that are slain, thrust through with a sword, that go down to the stones of the pit; as a carcase trodden under feet.

20 Thou shalt not be joined with them in burial, because thou hast destroyed thy land, and slain thy people: the seed of evildoers shall never be renowned.

21 Prepare slaughter for his children for the iniquity of their fathers; that they do not rise, nor possess the land, nor fill the face of the world with cities.

22 For I will rise up against them, saith the LORD of hosts, and cut off from Babylon the name, and remnant, and son, and nephew, saith the LORD.

23 I will also make it a possession for the bittern, and pools of water: and I will sweep it with the besom of destruction, saith the LORD of hosts.

24 The LORD of hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed, so shall it stand:

25 That I will break the Assyrian in my land, and upon my mountains tread him under foot: then shall his yoke depart from off them, and his burden depart from off their shoulders.

26 This is the purpose that is purposed upon the whole earth: and this is the hand that is stretched out upon all the nations.

27 For the LORD of hosts hath purposed, and who shall disannul it? and his hand is stretched out, and who shall turn it back?

28 In the year that king Ahaz died was this burden.

29 Rejoice not thou, whole Palestina, because the rod of him that smote thee is broken: for out of the serpent’s root shall come forth a cockatrice, and his fruit shall be a fiery flying serpent.

30 And the firstborn of the poor shall feed, and the needy shall lie down in safety: and I will kill thy root with famine, and he shall slay thy remnant.

31 Howl, O gate; cry, O city; thou, whole Palestina, art dissolved: for there shall come from the north a smoke, and none shall be alone in his appointed times.

32 What shall one then answer the messengers of the nation? That the LORD hath founded Zion, and the poor of his people shall trust in it. (KJV)


Verse one starts with the PROMISE. And that promise is to bring accusation against the “King of Babylon” so that once again the Creation will be at rest. Verse7. Yet this is not an earthly king and kingdom, but the Kingdom of Darkness identified and exposed.

Verse 14 is the linchpin, and verse 21 begins the declaration of all out war against THE SERPENT and his SEED. Strange how verse 28 sets the exact year of this declaration.

And verse 32 ends again with the LORD and ZION.

This takes us to the center of the pattern, a menorah pattern of 7’s.and a change.

Jeremiah 14:1-22

1 The word of the LORD that came to Jeremiah concerning the dearth.

2 Judah mourneth, and the gates thereof languish; they are black unto the ground; and the cry of Jerusalem is gone up.

3 And their nobles have sent their little ones to the waters: they came to the pits, and found no water; they returned with their vessels empty; they were ashamed and confounded, and covered their heads.

4 Because the ground is chapt, for there was no rain in the earth, the plowmen were ashamed, they covered their heads.

5 Yea, the hind also calved in the field, and forsook it, because there was no grass.

6 And the wild asses did stand in the high places, they snuffed up the wind like dragons; their eyes did fail, because there was no grass.

7 O LORD, though our iniquities testify against us, do thou it for thy name’s sake: for our backslidings are many; we have sinned against thee.

8 O the hope of Israel, the saviour thereof in time of trouble, why shouldest thou be as a stranger in the land, and as a wayfaring man that turneth aside to tarry for a night?

9 Why shouldest thou be as a man astonied, as a mighty man that cannot save? yet thou, O LORD, art in the midst of us, and we are called by thy name; leave us not.

10 Thus saith the LORD unto this people, Thus have they loved to wander, they have not refrained their feet, therefore the LORD doth not accept them; he will now remember their iniquity, and visit their sins.

11 Then said the LORD unto me, Pray not for this people for their good.

12 When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.

13 Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.

14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

15 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

16 And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them.

17 Therefore thou shalt say this word unto them; Let mine eyes run down with tears night and day, and let them not cease: for the virgin daughter of my people is broken with a great breach, with a very grievous blow.

18 If I go forth into the field, then behold the slain with the sword! and if I enter into the city, then behold them that are sick with famine! yea, both the prophet and the priest go about into a land that they know not.

19 Hast thou utterly rejected Judah? hath thy soul lothed Zion? why hast thou smitten us, and there is no healing for us? we looked for peace, and there is no good; and for the time of healing, and behold trouble!

20 We acknowledge, O LORD, our wickedness, and the iniquity of our fathers: for we have sinned against thee.

21 Do not abhor us, for thy name’s sake, do not disgrace the throne of thy glory: remember, break not thy covenant with us.

22 Are there any among the vanities of the Gentiles that can cause rain? or can the heavens give showers? art not thou he, O LORD our God? therefore we will wait upon thee: for thou hast made all these things. (KJV)

Verse 1 begins with “the dearth” an acknowledgement of Judgement on the land.

Verse 7 speaks of the cause, again it is the sin of the people that separate GOD and HIS PEOPLE, only this time there is a change. Verse 11 changes the personal pronouns, both from GOD’S POINT OF VIEW. But HIS PROPHET’S, why? Verse 14 explains it. GOD’S ONE PROPHET is out numbered and those people will not listen to GOD. But those who speak lies, claiming they are of “GOD”. The consequences of this Presumptuous Sin: SWORD AND FAMINE. Verse 21 is the call once again to repentance as a faithful GOD reminds them of HIS COVENANT.

But will they repent, how bad must it get for a wicked people to acknowledge their sin and repent?

Ezekiel 14:1-23

1 Then came certain of the elders of Israel unto me, and sat before me.

2 And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,

3 Son of man, these men have set up their idols in their heart, and put the stumblingblock of their iniquity before their face: should I be enquired of at all by them?

4 Therefore speak unto them, and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Every man of the house of Israel that setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to the prophet; I the LORD will answer him that cometh according to the multitude of his idols;

5 That I may take the house of Israel in their own heart, because they are all estranged from me through their idols.

6 Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Repent, and turn yourselves from your idols; and turn away your faces from all your abominations.

7 For every one of the house of Israel, or of the stranger that sojourneth in Israel, which separateth himself from me, and setteth up his idols in his heart, and putteth the stumblingblock of his iniquity before his face, and cometh to a prophet to enquire of him concerning me; I the LORD will answer him by myself:

8 And I will set my face against that man, and will make him a sign and a proverb, and I will cut him off from the midst of my people; and ye shall know that I am the LORD.

9 And if the prophet be deceived when he hath spoken a thing, I the LORD have deceived that prophet, and I will stretch out my hand upon him, and will destroy him from the midst of my people Israel.

10 And they shall bear the punishment of their iniquity: the punishment of the prophet shall be even as the punishment of him that seeketh unto him;

11 That the house of Israel may go no more astray from me, neither be polluted any more with all their transgressions; but that they may be my people, and I may be their God, saith the Lord GOD.

12 The word of the LORD came again to me, saying,

13 Son of man, when the land sinneth against me by trespassing grievously, then will I stretch out mine hand upon it, and will break the staff of the bread thereof, and will send famine upon it, and will cut off man and beast from it:

14 Though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, they should deliver but their own souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord GOD.

15 If I cause noisome beasts to pass through the land, and they spoil it, so that it be desolate, that no man may pass through because of the beasts:

16 Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters; they only shall be delivered, but the land shall be desolate.

17 Or if I bring a sword upon that land, and say, Sword, go through the land; so that I cut off man and beast from it:

18 Though these three men were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither sons nor daughters, but they only shall be delivered themselves.

19 Or if I send a pestilence into that land, and pour out my fury upon it in blood, to cut off from it man and beast:

20 Though Noah, Daniel, and Job, were in it, as I live, saith the Lord GOD, they shall deliver neither son nor daughter; they shall but deliver their own souls by their righteousness.

21 For thus saith the Lord GOD; How much more when I send my four sore judgments upon Jerusalem, the sword, and the famine, and the noisome beast, and the pestilence, to cut off from it man and beast?

22 Yet, behold, therein shall be left a remnant that shall be brought forth, both sons and daughters: behold, they shall come forth unto you, and ye shall see their way and their doings: and ye shall be comforted concerning the evil that I have brought upon Jerusalem, even concerning all that I have brought upon it.

23 And they shall comfort you, when ye see their ways and their doings: and ye shall know that I have not done without cause all that I have done in it, saith the Lord GOD. (KJV)

This light begins with the ELDERS coming to THE PROPHET. Why we do not know, but they heard more than they may have bargained for. Verse 7 states that those in idolatry, said same elders, and all of the house of Israel are going to the prophets to hear what GOD is saying. As if anything previously said had made a difference. Yet GOD says HE HIMSELF will answer them, and beginning in verse 8 it gets nasty, for the prophets who want to continue ‘their’ ministries. When GOD speaks of famine, it is a total famine of hearing THE WORD. Want to speak when GOD says be still. Then expect the judgement. Verse 14 speaks of those who are faithful, and will not see HIS WRATH. Noah, Daniel, Job, interesting names don’t you think? THEN comes verse 21 and the famine and the sword are added to pestilence and some nasty beast.

Could this the first light to the right of the SHAMISH be pointing to the DAY OF THE LORD more than an actual historical event? We have two more lights on the MENORAH.

Hosea 14:1-9

1 O Israel, return unto the LORD thy God; for thou hast fallen by thine iniquity.

2 Take with you words, and turn to the LORD: say unto him, Take away all iniquity, and receive us graciously: so will we render the calves of our lips.

3 Asshur shall not save us; we will not ride upon horses: neither will we say any more to the work of our hands, Ye are our gods: for in thee the fatherless findeth mercy.

4 I will heal their backsliding, I will love them freely: for mine anger is turned away from him.

5 I will be as the dew unto Israel: he shall grow as the lily, and cast forth his roots as Lebanon.

6 His branches shall spread, and his beauty shall be as the olive tree, and his smell as Lebanon.

7 They that dwell under his shadow shall return; they shall revive as the corn, and grow as the vine: the scent thereof shall be as the wine of Lebanon.

8 Ephraim shall say, What have I to do any more with idols? I have heard him, and observed him: I am like a green fir tree. From me is thy fruit found.

9 Who is wise, and he shall understand these things? prudent, and he shall know them? for the ways of the LORD are right, and the just shall walk in them: but the transgressors shall fall therein. (KJV)

Just verse 7 speaks in future terms, as does verses 4-6. This is what we are awaiting for so long. A generation that has turned away from it’s idols and await the LORD as they walk in HIS WAYS, and one day we will.

Revelation 14:1-20

1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads. THE LAMB stands on ZION. from where our SALVATION would come.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps:

3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb. We will walk in HIS WAYS as we walk with HIM FOREVER.

5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.


6 And I saw another angel fly in the midst of heaven, having the everlasting gospel to preach unto them that dwell on the earth, and to every nation, and kindred, and tongue, and people,

7 Saying with a loud voice, Fear God, and give glory to him; for the hour of his judgment is come: and worship him that made heaven, and earth, and the sea, and the fountains of waters. So we see all that was spoken completed.

8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,

10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:

11 And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.

12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

THE WRATH upon the King of BABYLON, and his seed.

13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle. And the final harvest begins.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

17 And another angel came out of the temple which is in heaven, he also having a sharp sickle.

18 And another angel came out from the altar, which had power over fire; and cried with a loud cry to him that had the sharp sickle, saying, Thrust in thy sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of the vine of the earth; for her grapes are fully ripe.

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs. (KJV)

AND this pattern could reach a 3rd 7 if it finishes with the next verse to complete the set of 7 sets of sevens with Rev 15:1 and the BOWLS of WRATH. An interesting place to end.

And that is where the letter to Bill ended. On Sunday, that Wednesday ADONAI ELOHIM ELYON asked if my “nation” can take what we were dishing out. Ten minutes later I got a call to turn on CNN. TOMAHAWK missiles were hitting targets in IRAQ.

So we have in this order.


Looks like an interesting year for one and all.

So let every one call me a false prophet, someone with no FEAR of the LORD, a doom and gloom fanatic. I guess I need more scars and tears, and every now and then HE asks me WATCHMAN what of the night?

How can I lie to HIM? Your sheep LORD are wounded and abused by the hirelings.

Your fields have been trampled. Your vineyard has been stripped. Your pleasant pastures are filled with blood. Your tables are filled by mockers and scorners that beat and abuse the few faithful servants that remain.

And I weep because they ignore HIS ANGER.

So I watch. I wait, at the GATE OF GOSHEN.





A Reincarnation (a response to The King of the Babylon)

Bob Neumann 3/1998

[A response to The King of Babylon, by Bryan Hupperts]

by Bob Neuman

Dear Bill and Bryan,

Last night I spent nearly two hours attempting to compose this post. Somehow it was lost in the attempt to post so I will try again. I will send the same to both of you.

From Feb 19 to the 25th I was attending conferences in west palm beach, and Tampa, Fl. The 14th Annual International Prophecy Conference sponsored by GOD’S News Behind the NEWS featured such speakers as Hal Lindsey, Grant Jeffrey, J R Church, Perry Stone Jr., Scott Pierson, and a powerful statement by Avi Lipkin. Present KNOWLEDGE confirmations to all the posts that you have published in the past few weeks. Bryan commented about his piece THE KING OF BABYLON that it did not fit the “THUS SAITH THE LORD” pattern. Much Revelation Knowledge coming today defies religious stereotypes. GOD has HIS own agenda and we all are seeing it just to begin to play before us. So I would like to give you some confirmation and foundation concerning the article...

>The King Of Babylon - Bryan Hupperts

>February 18, 1998

>I have been praying over the situation with Iraq (ancient Babylon). While I do not have a “thus says the Lord,” I do have a sense that we do not understand what we’re getting in to. We’ve been blinded by pride to seeing that God has an agenda to fulfill. His secret purposes will be manifested to the world.

>That Saddam is even alive is a sign of the protection of God. He is alive and breathing for a divine purpose. If you read the history of ancient Babylon, God used them to take His people prisoner. They were a vehicle of judgment on His OWN people.

Bryan, ‘we’ have no idea what is really going on. The politicians may, but all their actions seem to point to the idea that they have no understanding of Saddam or his people. Why is our main negotiator a woman when the people she is to deal with consider women as property to be sold or bartered? Besides that she, the Secretary of State, the Sec of Defense Mr Cohen, AND the Nat Security Adviser are all Jewish? [at least by name] some strange coincidence? Or the simple fact that there is a demonic agenda underneath everything we see. When Bill Clinton and Tony Blair got in front of the cameras they stated that Saddam was the greatest obstacle to the ideas of global peace and a “new world order”. Besides that there is a definitely a creepy feeling in my gut when 2 liberal pacifists attempt to “rattle sabers” on CNN.

As to Saddam and Iraq, the west armed him while he fought against Iran, knowing exactly what motivates him. GOD has always used an outside force to bring judgement to those who were warned. The fact that Saddam is still in power is one thing. The fact that he has rebuilt and rearmed is another. Add to that the years to indoctrinate his people against the Americans who are inflicting hardship and suffering is what breeds the fanaticism required for martyrs in the next Jihad.

>I have a chilling intuition that it might happen again.

>Saddam, it is believed, has built biological and chemical weapons that could kill millions. There is not doubt in my thinking that he is a homicidal madman. King Nebuchadnezzar also went mad - and was restored finally to sanity, his throne, and brought to saving faith in God.

Did you know that Saddam has for years openly stated that he is the ‘reincarnation’ of Nebuchadnezzar the Great? That is why he has three great agendas...and they all repeat what Neb 1 did. 1st is to rebuild the city of Babylon. He began this during the last years of the Iran-Iraq wars. Some sources say he has spent as much money on this as he has spent on military escalation. Oh, have you heard about the posters? Ol’ Saddam likes to push his ‘vision’ of his “brave new world” by printing posters of himself...as King Neb 2. Dressed in supposedly Regal Babylonian robes, in the ancient temples. He wants to restore the pagan pantheon. While we all think of him as Moslem, moslems do not believe in reincarnation. The do not rebuild pagan temples and worship in them. Babylon has been completed and has been the scene of galas, concerts, and symposiums for the NEW AGERs he has gathered around him.

Amazingly all 3 of his agendas are identical to those of another recent madman, Adolf Hitler. Saddam, like Adolf before him is fascinated by the occult and consumed with the desire for power.

His 2nd Agenda is to restore the Empire and to dominate world affairs. This is where we are now. He has in the last two years came into agreement with Iran that Jihad must be again taken up against THE GREAT SATAN and all the infidels who have perverted the TRUE FAITH. In simple English they must destroy western culture that has eaten away at their fundamental teachings. Pornography, Drugs, Alcohol, Democracy, Abortion, Homosexuality/Lesbianism, Feminism are the weapons we are using against them. AND YOU KNOW GUYS...they’re right !

All this leads to his third agenda, the destruction of Israel and the recapturing of Jerusalem. While Iran, Syria, Turkey, and Egypt hate and fear him they are eager to use him...as he uses them.

One of his favorite posters is of him riding a white stallion riding to victory...I have heard from seeing this back in 1991 Yassar Arafat pledged the support of the Palestinians to his cause saying that they awaited his arrival upon the MT of Olives and his entering Jerusalem by the eastern gate. That he would be welcomed and crowned.....that is why the PLO supported Iraq in the last war and cheered as scuds landed in Israel....they awaited their deliverer. Strange perversion of biblical prophecy?

>I cannot help but wonder if the Holy Spirit is drawing Saddam to Christ. If this happens, how many million Muslims might follow him?

For Saddam to profess JESUS publicly would require all moslems to immediately seek his death. but GOD’S M.O. of drawing can also be for destruction...either a “hook in the jaw” or a “hardening of the heart”. I will leave that to you to think on....

>My sense is that if this conflict escalates, we’ll have ourselves another World War. We Americans are convinced that we’ll just fly over, drop our bombs, and be done with it. I don’t believe it will be like Desert Storm.We’re in for a ghastly and deadly surprise. I am not sure there will be any real “winners” in any of this.

The dreams and visions we are seeing all speak of violent judgement and persecution coming against america which validates what you say next...

>Babylon is going to bite back and bite hard.

>Her fangs are bared. They drip with venom and, like a serpent hunting her prey, she is coiled and ready to strike.

Babylon also included present day Syria, Iran, Southern Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait. And they have plans against Israel and those who side with Israel. They have had 7 years to implement and infiltrate on their own...now let us not forget Russia who seems to side with them at every issue. The bear still has teeth and claws. And a long history of hating and killing Jews....

>As Daniel was thrown into the Babylonian Lion’s Den, so also will we. Daniel escaped without so much as a scratch because he was innocent of any crimes. I wonder how America will fare during our night in the Lion’s Den? Will we survive?

>In Revelation, it teaches that there are spirits that tempt the kings of the earth to war. Those spirits have been loosed again. Remember that God raised up both ancient Babylon and ancient Egypt to display His might and power in the earth. They served as His vehicles of expression and judgment.

>Is He doing this again with modern Babylon (Iraq)?

Yes I believe so with PRESENT KNOWLEDGE....all the facts point to a trap being set....and a “judas goat” leading us to it.

>I do not know if Saddam has the delivery capability to touch the soil of the USA unless he has managed to smuggle his weapons of mass destruction here. He has a covenant of death with terrorists - anything is possible. If he unleashes his wrath, our medicines and reliance of technology will be futile. There is no cure for the poisons he has concocted.

>We’ll have to trust and believe God for healings.

We have heard the reports of Nuclear Weapons missing from the former “USSR”. Little was said about their chemical/biological stockpiles. 7 years is a long time to smuggle and to set up for a war of attrition america has never anticipated and is almost defenseless against. Now I guess I need to get beyond this which is all present knowledge into Revelation knowledge...

>Abraham Lincoln, during the Civil War, was asked to pray that God would be on “our” side (i.e. The Union). Lincoln wisely replied, “we had better pray that we are on His side.”

That is the problem, as a nation we forgot GOD. Why did the american church decide the universe revolved around their agendas? And then demand that GOD bless their endeavors?

Several years ago I had a vivid dream of a sea battle. One of the ships under attack bore the name GEORGE WASHINGTON. I put the dream aside because I knew no capital ship by that name. So when the media announced the deployment of the carrier GW and it’s task force I freaked big time and went to the net and found the US NAVY site and the list of all our carriers...including the Abraham Lincoln.... over a week ago I had another night vision...involving three carriers being sunk. I saw no names so the time line is not dependent on the GW being there. and the whole thing was based upon an attack from behind. Presently we have 3 carrier groups in/around the Persian Gulf. A narrow body of water with limited room to maneuver, with possible enemies on all sides.

Maybe I am just some crackpot with vain imaginations...it would be preferable to the possibility that the combined dreams/visions/prophecies of the saints are pointing to. Bill, a while back I mentioned to you my thoughts on the ‘rapture issue’ may not be as far from you as you might think. In worse case scenario we will all be crispy critters shortly. My scenario is based on scripture....the complacent lukewarm american laodicean church lost it’s first love long ago. The combined efforts of all the nicolaotin despots have forsaken the LOGOS and denied the RHEMA by following the teachings of Balaam and Jezebel. They need to wash their robes in the fires of tribulation. but there is a time when the BRIDEGROOM comes like a thief in the night for a BRIDE. The BRIDE is a virgin....not a religious whore.

I was told to prepare for a time of fire. To put aside a years supply of food, medicine, necessities for my family. And to warn HIS CHILDREN of the two edged Sword of JUDGEMENT and WRATH. I have tried to sound the shofar when and where possible.

So I thank you Bill for your work to warn the remnant. And to you Bryan, you are definitely on time and on target.

The hardest thing is to hear the LORD and see it come to pass before you piece by piece. In this there is no joy, only grief for as each piece falls into place the assurance of the fullness of all HIS WARNINGS presses us with grief as we see what is to come. Being a crackpot would not hurt as much as a servant aware of both PRESENT and REVELATION knowledge.

Be blessed

Bob in Miami




A Response To Julie Baxter’s Post

Bob Neumann, 2/1999

Dear Bill and all those who read your updates,

The last time you updated Bill, you gave us a commentary by Miss Baxter. This is not meant to be an attack or an argument with Miss Baxter or the statements that were presented. Just my very personal thoughts.

Cindy opened the meeting with the prophetic statement “in 1999 there will be no business as usual”. She went on to chronicle the last two weeks for the Jacobs family.

Things have been unusual since October...that is when GOD’S YEAR began. Anyone still doing the same old same old without an overriding sense of urgency is nether watching the times as a “Son of Issacar” or listening to the LORD. PRESENT KNOWLEDGE will tell you trouble is coming. REVELATION KNOWLEDGE tells you why it is coming. I regret I saw little of either in this article.

She and Mike participated in a gathering of the prophets of the USA in North Carolina (Paul Cain, Mike Bickle, Bill Hamon, Rick Joyner, Bob Jones, John & Paula Sanford, Dick Eastman, Dutch Sheets and others) January 27 - 28. She’s been reading “Humility” by Andrew Murray and wondered briefly if that is why so much has come their way recently. Her daughter was facing surgery and Cindy had to get on the plane to go to Uganda. Her daughter needed mom, but their son said “Mom, if you don’t go, you’ll miss God” and they decided “OK, God, here we go.” Then their baggage was lost four days and she had nothing to wear to meetings.

Well those are the BIG NAMES....BIG MINISTRIES....OWNERS OF THE SCHOOLS OF THE PROPHETS.... Then you wonder why the next statement is as it is....

Secondly, she spoke that it was the consensus of the prophets that Y2K is to be taken seriously and people must prepare. The first and foremost preparation is SPIRITUAL, but that we are also to prepare in the natural as the Lord leads. Some will recognize and receive a Joseph anointing to provide for those in need.

Well, I have been laboring in, around, for GOSHEN for 2+ years. No one ever confirmed a JOSEPH ANOINTING on this old dog. Yet I like the “as the LORD leads...” part. I thought the prophets were supposed to lead? give direction? of, I’m sorry. It was Nehemiah that gave the direction to rebuild the walls. And he came with a King’s Authority to do GOD’S WORK.

Just maybe we need to have a two edged anointing; we who live in a land of “unwalled villages”. We who just love to preach about tearing down the walls of separation, of bigotry, of denominational hubris, of class status.

A Nehemiah who will bring everyone together to build a defense from attack... A Joseph who will bring everyone to store for the famine.

Now each of these guys did not move in some religious or spiritual capacity, they had POWER. IMPERIAL APPOINTMENT to get a job done. And we play games with “religious sounding semantics”.

It amazes me that after the government bureaucracy and Senator Bennet’s report cards the prophets did not speak. Mega-corporations and conglomerates spending billions of dollars over years now in anticipation of severe problems, the prophetic voice was muzzled. Take all the ‘doom and gloomers’, the survivalists and all the assorted crazies all over the place, (ME INCLUDED I GUESS...) and finally the “prophets” have spoken?????

60 MINUTES”, “20/20”, “48 HOURS”, “NIGHT LINE”.... ABC ... CBS ... NBC ... CNN ... TBN ... (MR. TURNER ...THAT IS) all have heavily discussed the realities of Y2K, so now the prophetic “IMPERATOR” has been given?

Like do they have a clue????

A while back a tremendous Prophetic Word “AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS” went across the ‘net’. It was printed on this site. Since then older and newer WORDS have been brought forth. It is nice to know that maybe GOD was not funnin’ with us. That HE MEANT EXACTLY what HE SAID. Now I have to ask “ WHY SO LONG” and where is their “leadership”....

(4) “God is going to move in multiplying food and churches will function as hospitals with an Elijah anointing healing the people.” If we prepare, God will bless us to bless others. The tendency is to get into fear, but remember He knows the sparrows and clothes the lilies. “God provided supernaturally during WW2 for England, He will provide again.”

Throughout AMERICA individuals and small groups have listened and obeyed. And until recently have been part of the lunatic fringe. Few churches will commit because of denominational warnings of instilling “fear”. It will not be a church thing until the panic begins. Even now it is too late for extensive planning and preparation....(SHHHHHH, don’t tell anybody, they might become discomforted).

And here is another ELIJAH anointing. Now how many people did he “heal”??? Raised one from the dead, but it sounds cute doesn’t it?

(6) The Nehemiah project is to cry out to God for our nation as in Rev. 21:24. The nation of Guatemala is close to 80% Christian because they refuse to have anything other than this scripture. They declare it over their nation, that Guatemala will be a nation listed among these nations. They’ve broken curses off the land and now it produces huge and wonderful crops.

Sort of flimsy foundation to build on...one verse...but it is a good one. And for Guatemala it seems to work. But does that give us the right to “steal” or “procure” their direction? Or just maybe we had better listen for our own verse. I have mine, does anyone have theirs?

(7) “We will see glorious revival in the worst of times. Prepare the cities, for in the midst of the troubles God will raise up Joseph’s to bless and make provision for the needy. In the middle of the crisis, some will be prospered in order to bless.”

Does that mean we might get loosed from the prison? “Glorious revival” is another one of those “buzz words” that has to pop up at every turn. I wonder if Moses was preaching revival when they dipped the HYSSOP into the BLOOD to mark the frames of their doors. When the DEATH ANGEL walked through EGYPT did the slaves know they were in a deliverance service? I do not think so, especially after the first 9 PLAGUES....

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CRISIS SOME WILL BE BLESSED??? I sure hope so because no one has been storing for 7 years, and storage space is what we ran out of first here in south Florida....

(10) Cindy feels strongly .......

I’m glad she “feels” about things, but not one “THUS SAITH THE LORD”, if anyone noticed...

But Y2K has a preset date doesn’t it. Before 01/01/00 a whole lot of bad things can happen if you look beyond the now. I don’t know what could happen first...or why...it doesn’t matter. I just know I am to do as much as I can before I am placed in the position where I can do nothing.

Only those who heard GOD before they met me seem to listen to what I have to share....

In fact most came looking for me. I call it GOD’S SENSE of HUMOR.

And nothing I see ahead for America and the apostate church is laughable...

Old Dog in Goshen




Holy Indignation versus the American Apostasy

Bob Neumann, 1999


(((SUBTITLE))) (separating ABBA'S HEART from the pseudo-spiritual garbage of AMERICAN APOSTASY)

In the last seventy-two hours I have been barraged by well meaning ''calls-to-arms" by many well meaning people. I suppose they all meant to raise the masses of American Churchianity in Holy Indignation against the ''strongholds''. Presently there are three hot beds of aggravated religiosity being raised for my/our actions.

First is a flippant response to a complaint by an ABC employee. On ABC there is a program called THE PRACTICE, and they supposedly had a program where ''homosexuality'' was either promoted/defended. Someone wrote an email to complain, and was treated ''poorly''. That is what I can figure out from the whole dust cloud so far.... What exactly they expect me to do, I am unsure....

Second is a commercial by Anheiser Busch where a gay couple are drinking. The Company has set up 1-800 #'s to weigh American sentiments.... So I am to call and vote....

Third is the TIME magazine pole on the person of the century.....Adolph Hitler and Elvis are presently in the thick of it.... Again I am to call and vote.....

To think that any or all three are of such earth shaking importance that so many have reached out to me. To instill some level of indignation and to bring forth an emotional outburst for the GLORY of GOD?


The world is at the brink of war on seven different fronts.... our Christian brothers and sisters are being murdered on a scale unseen for 1600 years in places the average American does not know exists. judgment is upon America and all I see is trivial pursuit in the ranks of the ''remnant''.

Sorry SAINTS, but ABBA has spoken correction and the kids are priding themselves at ''bein' bad''....being a force to recognize in the ''real'' world. Flexing Christian clout' and make the world take notice.....…

Do you really think MELEK Y'SHUA is concerned about a TIME Magazine ''popularity pole''? obviously a lot of Americans do!!!! it's a hell of a lot easier than picking up a cross and following.....

I've been busy here in south Florida.....the attacks against my pastor and our congregation have been devastating. I still get 10-15 posts a day from people in need of ''ministry'' ..… everyday a new one or two.

Plus I hear and obey.....

SOOOOOO....I do not spend a lot of time watching beer commercials..... nor do I spend any money for Anheiser Busch products. So there is no need for me to threaten boycotting Bud and Bud Light as a positive political action. Give Mr. Busch credit for creating a Christian 1-800#'' to register public sentiment. Frankly I can see why they are uncertain where the chips may fall here. Many Christian denominations are accepting alternative lifestyles. Many Christians buy their product regularly..... How do they know where the ''LIGHT'' shines?

But is counting anonymous calls the way to witness for our LORD?

NOW, I do not watch too much TV....there is little there that is uplifting or gratifying. So I missed the whole point of contention with ABC........

NOW, I wonder if all these "Christians have anything better to do than watch commercial TV? NOW, if you really have to watch that ''stuff'' and then feel ''self-righteous enough to both complain and be upset at the response, you need to get right before GOD and read HIS WORD.

HIS WORD says anyone who is one with JESUS will be hated by the world. I think HE used words like ''reviled'', ''persecuted'', ''suffer'' to describe what it would be like.

How come we got so many ''uppity'' brethren out there?

The CHURCH is portraying itself as a bunch of thin skinned 'cry babies' who want to contend for the faith by dialing telephone #'s..... The Media paints us as a bunch of over emotional fanatics chained to agendas that make little sense to the world at large. They see us as eager to force our ideas/ideals on them. After several years of listening to "Christian Activists" I have to acknowledge the Media is correct in much of their assessment. Which makes me wonder where we left THE WORD and created something else. THE WORD CALLS IT ABOMINATION..... doing what is right in our own eyes.

Now if someone can tell me how a TIMES Magazine Pole, a TV Program protest, and the removal of a beer commercial will be ''salt and light'' to the world, and make ''disciples''; I really would love to know.

selah old dog




Humanism And The Moral Imperative:

The Two Headed Dragon Of The Balkans

Bob Neumann, 4/1999

Today according to President Clinton marks the twentieth day of the NATO Attempt to stop violence by using violence. Yesterday a “passenger train” was hit during a bombing raid. NATO acknowledges a mistake was made. Serbia cries foul and produces alligator tears as satellite images in Kosovo may have found the first of many “mass graves” of people executed by Serbians.

More than once I have heard the terms “MORAL IMPERATIVE”.... And “MORAL HIGHGROUND” by advocates of NATO actions. The short history of Serbian Statehood in the 20th century has been kind enough to put all these terms into our vocabulary.... Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo, ‘ethnic cleansing’.... The last ten years proves that the present Serbian Government has no compunction at either killing opposition, silencing internal critics, or exterminating people that are not the ‘right kind’.

Regrettably many see this war between Serbia and NATO as a dispute based on human morality, the protection of an “ethnic people”. In this case Albanian Moslems. The problem is not humanitarian, as most would believe. It is a two faceted issue. First it is economic, and this then takes it into the realm of political power.

Kosovo is an economic issue, first and foremost. The European Union Members have for years struggled to absorb the earlier waves of ex-citizens of the old Yugoslavia.

Germany alone had to deport many Bosnians over a year ago because they placed a drain on the German Economy. Likewise the Bosnians competed with other foreigners for jobs that many Germans felt belong to Germans. Foreign nationals have increased the unemployment roles throughout the EU.

Now 1.6 million “ethnic Albanians” have been brutally torn from their homes, systematically robbed and looted, and dumped on the European doorstep. In reality SERBIA declared unconditional war on the budding economy of the EU. Few commentators would put it so bluntly, but that is what has happened.

In retaliation, the EU.... in the form of NATO....has bombed Serbia. Serbian atrocities justify some form of action so say our leaders. Yet whenever the on going atrocities in the Sudan, Ethiopia and Etraria, Rwanda, Indonesia, Sri Lanka, Kashmir and Chechneya are mentioned the discussion is shelved, or the subject is changed. The simple reason is money. None of these situations ‘fit’ the “MORAL IMPERATIVE” quite right.

What we are seeing is the bankruptcy of MODERN HUMANISM. The abuse of people and their personal rights is a wonderful area of discussion. To point out the lack of “rights” or the curtailing of them by government edict has been the duty of the United Nations, and groups like AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL. Repeatedly they listed nations that abused their citizenry. Yet this last year many countries were not sighted for “HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS”. China and Cuba who are perennial members of this listing were not mentioned. Obviously Humanism and Morality took a back seat to economic pressure in the case of China. As for Cuba, it’s anyone’s guess. Maybe baseball has redeeming social value after all.

If “MORAL HIGHGROUND” is sufficient justification to bomb Serbian targets, to ‘limit’ targets for “humanitarian” reasons seems equally justifiable. The much used term “collateral damage” is a favorite of the basic “humanitarian politician”. To create an ethically “clean” war is an impulse that can not be denied. It was used in Iraq, and now in the Balkans by military and civilian spokesmen alike. The concept of keeping the “evils of war” away from the innocent civilians is Humanism at it’s finest. It is man’s ultimate goal achieved in this era. Making “war” clean, efficient, and acceptable to all age groups. Only it does not work, will not work. It only puts pain and terror out of sight, and ignores suffering for the few as the many sit back and watch it on CNN.

Presently a secondary war has begun in the media. It is the beast called “sympathy”. The Serbians play it in order to soften the “heart” of the creature called “public opinion”. At the same time media highlights the plight of the Kosovars. Simple arithmetic will show 1000 broken windows in Belgrade because of the concussion of NATO ordinance does not equal 300,000 displaced people in the Albanian and Macedonian countryside. But it is the only hand Serbia can play so expect each card to be played one at a time.

After all this is said and done the real issue of this war is power. The European Union is a player in the game of WORLD DOMINATION. At least it is using Kosovo as the springboard to the upper levels of the game. If you remember the first few days of the aerial attack the Serbian allegations were America and Clinton causing this war. It took three days for the American General who presently commands all NATO forces to vanish. Since that time it has been EU in front of the cameras.

The EU has to defend itself on all fronts. Political, military, and economic are portrayed in the battle over Kosovo. If the EU wishes to face on even footing the present world powers; Russia, China, the Islamic Union; it can not allow Serbian incursion and aggression to dictate European Policy. That is why Serbia is being bombed. Yet because the EU wishes to appear civilized and truly humanitarian it is limiting it’s attacks hoping the Serbian leadership will awaken and realize it can not win. Like the ‘victory’ in Iraq; this strategy is self-defeating.

For years American scholars have debated the issue of a “just war”. Our universities have approached the issue soundly from the airy heights of HUMANISM, and have come up with nothing that can rationalize what to do with a Hitler or an Idi Amin or even a Sadam Hussein. True pacifists say that the right thing is peace at all costs. Neville Chamberlain was broken hearted that Hitler lied to him. In order to “appease” the BEAST he fed nations to the Nazi monster. It did not work for two reasons.

First, force only respects and backs down when a stronger threat is perceived. Second is that there is an underlying dimension that motivates all others. This dimension is not a physical reality, but a spiritual one. For this reason the modern media has little regard for the possibility. Yet the Balkans has been a hot bed of human insanity and spiritual conflict for centuries. Macedonia was the power base for the Prophet Daniel’s “he goat”, the Prince of Grecia. It was the battleground between Christendom and Islam. It was part of the bartering between Stalin and Churchill at the end of WWII. But now it is the fulcrum that the Revised Roman Empire will pivot itself into THE END TIMES.

Right now Serbia has negotiated a pact creating a Slavic Union with Russia and Bellarus. It threatens NATO’s grab for domination of Europe. Russia with it’s ties to the Islamic States of the old USSR, and treaties to all the nations around Israel still is a player. Russia is an interesting conundrum. It is utterly bankrupt and starving, it’s economy and political bureaucracy completely corrupt. That is if you listen to the “stories” that come from Russia to Western Media. In reality no major Soviet factory has yet to close down.

The Soviet munitions factories produce more than they did five years ago. Each month Russian youth are conscripted and sent to mandatory military service. Needless to say the Russian Armed Forces have not shrunk in size since Peristroyka and Glastnost were “reintroduced”.

In the next few weeks anything is possible. Yet in the end one force will walk away with all the marbles. Will it be NATO/EU as the Revived Roman Empire....or a Slavic Union with Islamic Allies as GOG/MAGOG. At this point no Islamic Nation anywhere has even paid lip service to the Kosovars in need. That is an eerie silence in itself. This week Israel began sending food and medical assistance to Macedonia. Yet not one petro dollar has been offered by the wealthy Islamic Gulf States to help fellow Moslems.

Strange spirits behind all this.

Very strange in deed.




Last Call

Bob Neumann, 4/1999

This last week has been a time of oppression and deception in S Florida. What seems right is not. What we are told is ''wrong'' may not be. For several days the Kosovo Situation was replaced by the same kind of evil at our door step. There is a bizarre interplay spiritually here I could not ignore. According to our ''trustworthy'' media two young males committed an act of barbarity we are not 'accustomed' to. These individuals did this on the day Adolf Hitler was born. The law enforcement spokesmen have tied these two teenagers into some neo-nazi cabal.

Usually we see young white males following the NAZI band wagon in the light of poverty, bigotry, and elitism. Neither of these Colorado teens fit that scenario. Both were evaluated as upper middle class, bright, and having potential. What we thought of as CLEAN CUT AMERICAN for 40+ years. Black trench coats notwithstanding, these individuals did not ''fit in'' and a tragedy occurred.

Strange that the media has said that these young men had a fondness for Marilyn Manson, and Adolf Hitler. Poor Adolf might be rolling in his grave to be placed in Mr. Manson's category. Adolf had a ''solution'' for this kind of music, and I think many good American Christians would side with him on this issue. And quite a few others I would not want to mention in public. Awwww....why not he was antiabortion, anti-homosexual, anti-Jews, anti-drugs, anti-Communists, anti-unions, anti-anyone ''not exactly like us''. Too much of the modern American church lives by those beliefs, but would never say it in public. Little sins....hidden sins...but still sin within the camp.

Yet behind Marilyn Manson and Adolf Hitler there is a greater evil, spiritual wickedness in High Places. Each and everyday we see it in Kosovo. And this week we see it in Liberia, Indonesia, Jamaica, Miami, New York, L. A., and now Colorado.....all thanks to CNN....but NATO is not threatened....so we will see no bombing. today I heard another American Christian on TV use almost all 30 minutes of air time to paint a picture of Serbia as a Christian nation under attack. It was a little one sided. No mention of refugees. ''ethnic cleansing'' was used once quickly and then ignored. But that seems to be the route Christian TV is going....especially with the idea of a ''ground war'' keeps being pushed. And I really wondered why the media church was siding against NATO. So I asked THE BOSS....


Could not understand so I sat at HIS FEET during this period of oppression and heard nothing. The proverbial ''heavens of brass'' effect was apparently in place, so I did what Hezekiah did and put my face against the wall. Today the smoke cleared and the darkness was pierced briefly.

My mind is still a jumble, but I need to sound the alarm....

In the 1960's the ''church'' supported the early war in Vietnam. It backed politicians and never asked GOD. We are seeing the opposite now because they were among the ''losers'' back then. So expect to hear anti-war rhetoric come from AMERICAN TV CHRISTIANITY..… listen for the spin words....''unjust war''....''immoral war''.....and all forms of Humanistic Jargon.....

When the hell has war ever been MORAL or JUST!!!

Anyone notice Bill Clinton does not use the term ''WAR'' at all.....he uses ''CONFLICT'' because the opinion polls are still mixed. He's playing games even now. But who will pay in the long run?

America and ''the church''.....

America looses when the bill is paid, both in dollars and lives lost because America will be divided in the days ahead. NATO/ THE EUROPEAN UNION can not back down if it wants to survive. The Serbian/Communist attack on NATO/EU is to the death.....one way or another.

''The church'' looses because it is trying to not be on the wrong side again. But to side against NATO/EU will paint the church UN-American and anti-civilization. Just as the German Christians in the 1930's and 40's were identified as NAZI, so will we be if current leaders do not seek GOD real fast and real hard. America will not forgive.....nor will THE EU

During DESERT STORM Saddam played the same cards of public opinion and they did not work. Milosevic is and the American church is siding with ''Christian'' brothers......the only problem is if American GI's go into KOSOVO and they find mass graves and atrocities again as they did in Bosnia, will they forgive and forget ''church media leaders''? Especially when we hear no prayer for AMERICAN SERVICEMEN as we did in DESERT STORM? We were protecting MOSLEMS then too....

So the church is painting itself in a corner and playing along with one of the two ''beasts''. In this case there is no middle ground. We need THE WORD....and no one has it right now....

But let me remind everyone that the Prophets said there would be war, and attacks on our children. It's just that the School of the PROPHETS chose to hold back for ''our good'' it seems. They also said America had till October to repent. Seems like time runs out like sand in an hour glass. Not all prophetic warnings are as valid as others, especially if fear of 'date setting' overrides the urgency of the hour.

In the LAST DAYS deception comes from all corners....

But remember we were given direction....if we only study....

Isaiah 58:1-14

1 Cry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression, and the house of Jacob their sins.

2 Yet they seek me daily, and delight to know my ways, as a nation that did righteousness, and forsook not the ordinance of their God: they ask of me the ordinances of justice; they take delight in approaching to God.

3 Wherefore have we fasted, say they, and thou seest not? wherefore have we afflicted our soul, and thou takest no knowledge? Behold, in the day of your fast ye find pleasure, and exact all your labours.

4 Behold, ye fast for strife and debate, and to smite with the fist of wickedness: ye shall not fast as ye do this day, to make your voice to be heard on high.

5 Is it such a fast that I have chosen? a day for a man to afflict his soul? is it to bow down his head as a bulrush, and to spread sackcloth and ashes under him? wilt thou call this a fast, and an acceptable day to the LORD?

6 Is not this the fast that I have chosen? to loose the bands of wickedness, to undo the heavy burdens, and to let the oppressed go free, and that ye break every yoke?

7 Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? when thou seest the naked, that thou cover him; and that thou hide not thyself from thine own flesh?

8 Then shall thy light break forth as the morning, and thine health shall spring forth speedily: and thy righteousness shall go before thee; the glory of the LORD shall be thy rearward.

9 Then shalt thou call, and the LORD shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say, Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger, and speaking vanity;

10 And if thou draw out thy soul to the hungry, and satisfy the afflicted soul; then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noonday:

11 And the LORD shall guide thee continually, and satisfy thy soul in drought, and make fat thy bones: and thou shalt be like a watered garden, and like a spring of water, whose waters fail not.

12 And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in.

13 If thou turn away thy foot from the sabbath, from doing thy pleasure on my holy day; and call the sabbath a delight, the holy of the LORD, honorable; and shalt honour him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking thine own words:

14 Then shalt thou delight thyself in the LORD; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth, and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of the LORD hath spoken it. (KJV)

Our only weapons against the Kingdom of Darkness is ''fasting'', ''prayer'', and ''worship''. Yet what the church teaches as 'fasting', 'prayer', and 'worship' does not always agree with GOD'S definitions. That is a very dangerous place to be in, has taken me a long time to figure out.

Well people, this is good bye. It is my last call so to speak....except for two thunders.…

There are three dragons out there and they know where I live. So I got three choices....stay and take everything they dish out....run away and hide.....or take the battle to them as long as I can.

We have been given the HIGH GROUND if we do HIS WILL....and I do not see the ''church'' leading in that direction. The WORD says chose you this day who you will serve, after you ditch the idols you've carried so damn long. Therefore I have one choice to make. So it's time to take HIS STANDARD to the battle before the battle comes to you.

Which it will....sooner than most may think.....

old dog




No King

Bob Neumann

Judges 17:6 In those days, there was no king in Israel; every man did what was right in his own eyes.

Judges 18:1 In those days there was no king in Israel...

Judges 19:1 Now it came about that in those days there was no king in Israel...

Judges 12:25 In those days there was no king in Israel; every man did what was right in his own eyes.

Prov. 21:2 Every man's way is right in his own eyes, but the LORD weighs the hearts.

Prov. 16:2 All the ways of a man are clean in his own sight, But the LORD weighs the motives.

16:25 There is a way which seems right to a man, but its end is the way of death.

Rom 99 the wages of sin are death.

Prov. 29:18 Where there is no vision the people are unrestrained...

Hos. 4:6 My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge.

Four times in the end of Judges after the death of Samson, the statement of the nation having no king and the righteousness of individual men in their own "eyes" is made. The point is emphasized by the goings on in these chapters. Yet, there is a question to be asked first. How is it that there would have been a king in Israel in the first place? Israel was a theocracy, which means they had no king but the LORD or YHVH. Once we answer that question we see that after the judges cease that Israel has no "king" no "vision" no " standard of rule" no "knowledge" and as is listed in the above scriptures anything goes.

What goes in this nation which is covenanted to a righteous and pristinely pure (Holy) God is sheer mayhem and lunacy. Chapter 17 of Judges opens after the final hurrah of Samson in the Philistine Temple to Dagon. This judge by the way defiled himself with a foreign woman and lost his "sight". The only reason he had the victory he had in the end was because it pleased the Father to bring down a house dedicated to another god than Himself and His enemies in one fell swoop! But once he is gone there is absolute chaos.

17 opens and we meet Micah. Micah is an Ephraimite in the hills of Ephraim. Micah is also a thief. Verse 2 records a conversation between son and mother without explaining the situation. "and he said to his mother. " the eleven hundred pieces of silver which were taken from you, about which you uttered a curse in my hearing, behold, the silver is with me; I took it." She replies after uttering a curse presumably on the thief by the name of the LORD, "blessed be my son by the LORD." HUH? Worse is the next thing she does. She hands the son back the silver and commissions him to get her a graven and a molten image. "You shall make for yourselves any graven images of things in the air the earth or under it in the sea." Commandment number two, Torah. Somebody obviously forgot to mention that fine point of law to her and so her son is a thief. But wait it gets better. Micah knows something of the Hebrew ways for he makes this shrine and an Ephod and consecrates one of his own sons to become his priest. Again, huh?

Our Micah is an Ephraimite not of Aaron or Melchizadek. But there is a Levite en route to our Micah. This is a Judean Levite in Judah of a Judean family who for whatever reasons up and leaves everything and goes on this journey to "find a place". He comes to where Micah lives and incredibly when Micah invites him to be a priest in the house and to be as a father to Micah, he goes along with the flow! At least now, we know part of Micah's problem. No father, no torah for it is to the men of the house that Torah is taught by men. For ten pieces of silver per year a suit of clothes and keep. That's the contract. Now the priest was an older man than Micah for it says that Micah became like one of his sons. Just what did the Levite leave back in Judah? The chapter closes with Micah saying, "Now I know the LORD will prosper me, seeing as I have a Levite as priest." Micah is what we would call a religious or spiritual man.

Chapter 18 opens with repeated statement that there is no king. Now we come across a new greater scale of foolishness. Danites with no inheritance but according to the 19th chapter of Joshua there is an allotment of land in the territories of the inheritance lands. So why are they seeking and inheritance? The tribe sends its best warriors to spy out the land. These men come across our Micah. They recognize the Levite priest and inquire as to his presence and receive a "word" from him. Now after Balaam there is a principle about God's dealings at times and at times any "donkey" will do. This priest would be considered one such animal, of course, I use the polite term for the animal as you all know what is said of the donkey in scripture. Often worthy men have been paid the same name as a compliment especially after the bars close.

I have to wonder however that the priest blesses the people and they lay to the sword the intended target. Then again the target is a city called Laish. It means "crushing: a lion as from its destructive blows (Strongs # 3918). Here is a people secure peaceful living like the Sidonians. They have no dealings with anyone else and being in a valley, these are an easy prey for the Danites. No real victory here.

The Danites then coming on the way to their target area pass by Micah's house. There 600 armed men gather. The original spies go in and they ransack the house taking the idols. When the priest inquires of them, they tell him to put his hand on his mouth and be happy for he will be a priest over a whole tribe not just one man. The priests hearts was glad. Guess he found his place. So much for loyalty as he leaves with all the owners religious stuff. At least the neighbors tried to help. They assemble and overtake the Danites and cry out. The Danites turn around and ask "what is the matter with you that you assemble together?" Micah replies,basically, "You took my stuff and my priest and left and you have to ask what is the matter with me?" But these are an army on march and at least Micah has enough sense to drop the issue and cut his loses and leave. So now, a whole tribe is in idolatry. To underscore the sin God adds in the last verse of 18. ...all the time that the house of God was at Shiloh. So the tent had not been destroyed or the ark lost and there were real priests still doing the right thing in God's eyes, hopefully, at Shiloh? I thought from this text that perhaps all that was lost. Chapters 19-21 record the most bizarre heinous disgusting and notable down turning of Israel altogether. It begins with a man a Levite who takes a unclean woman to wife.

It opens however with the statement that there is no king in Israel. This Levite may not have been able to be a Levite for tabernacle. Yet any self respecting Levite knew that they took noone but the tribal women and preferably a Levitical tribal woman as a wife. But he goes and gets a concubine, which may indicate a wife too. This is not a very faithful concubine. She runs off to Daddy in Bethlehem for four months and he has to go after her. The father prolongs for some reason the stay and when determined to leave the man takes his concubine and heads home in the late afternoon. Night hits them at Gibeah of Benjamite territory, though he might have faired better with the Jebusites. If I were to title this story into a message for a sermon it would be called the cutting off of the right hand. Benjamin means Son of the right hand. In fact it is Yeshua who fills this prophetic title in his reply to certain Pharisees in Sanhedrin when he says "you will see the son of man at the right hand of Power".

But this right hand is better cut off. The man enters the city and noone opens the door for a wayfarer. Right there we know something is wrong. For the Jew was to be hospitable and this was a fellow Jew and anyone looking at him would have known by his clothing. But a farmer coming in from the field does open his house and care for the traveler. There they are drinking and eating and then Gibeah takes on a Sodom-ish nighttime flavor. The worthless men of the city, the criminal element come along to this farmer's house and want the traveler for " relations". The last time anyone wanted relations was in Lots day and those relations were sexual. So the sin of Sodom is a criminal problem here among Benjamin? The farmer has the answer. Send out his virgin and the traveler’s concubine. The men get the concubine. Guess the farmer chickened put at the thought of his little girl in those hands. But justice will be served. The criminal element raped and sodomised her and molested her and defiled her and beat her just as a gang bang might today. Men are men organs are organs and in all this time natural tendencies have not changed. What we have here might just as well be on the 6 o'clock news! Gang tortures rapes and kills prostitute, Country goes to war, news story at eleven.

The man takes his dead concubine home cuts her into 12 pieces and sends them to the tribes. Now that is and attention getting ploy if ever there was one! The tribes sickened by the missive assemble at the meeting place called Mizpah. This is where the national judgement and meetings take place. It is decided to go out after Benjamin at Gibeah and make them pay the price unless they turn over the criminals. Now the intent is noble and scripturally right for the criminals must be punished for the sin and the sin must be taken "out of the camp". Yet Benjamin had only to turn over the criminal element and they as a tribe would still be around. That the tribe refused to listen to their tribal bretheren and that they harbored the criminal element and that the farmer knew what to do, says volumes. This was a sin problem in the entire tribe and it was allowed to go on for some reason that is never recorded. It is also a shame to the tribe and to save face they turn away from the nation. What follows is reminiscent of the civil war. Ten tribes versus one or north versus south, take your pick. Yet it is God who gives into the hands this tribe, but not before a curious number of other tribesmen are defeated.

In a classic pincer movement the defending tribe comes out of the city and starts to slaughter yet again the offenders and the ambushers rise and enter the city behind them,. A citywide slaughter ensure and the smoke of the cities burning rises up. Benjamin is undone demoralized and defeated except for 600 men who take to the rock at Rimmon. Rimmon is an interesting name for its is also the name of a Syrian god. Therefore the rock at Rimmon may well have been a temple fortress that was defensible. What we may have here is a stalemate and a set of offending tribes that are sore at the execution of the duty of the day. In fact they were very upset for they had just cut off a tribe. What was the remark Jesus made about the body part that offends? Better to enter into heaven without it than into hell with it? In fact it actually recorded in Matt 5:30 that it the right hand offends cut it off. Jesus is still the king of the one liners. The nation now assembles at Bethel and cries bitterly and asks Why?

The people arise, build and altar, and offer burnt offerings. But wait, isn't there a place and priests for this at Shiloh? So how is it that they have done what is not according to Torah? Answer? No king in the land. Because they do not appear to be in the right place at the right time, the right counsel is not given and what they finally do is horrendous. First they take a lawful lot and select for any family group, village, or town that did not come to Mizpah at the summons and did not participate in the war. They found one. Jabesh-Gilead was not in attendance. Now the Jabesh-Gileadites are figured here then in Samuel when the Ark returns from the Philistines and they peer inside and are killed outright and then in Saul's reign when attacked by outsiders and in need of help. Saul takes a page from the Levite in this story by the way, as he sends animal parts to the tribes as a summons.

Feeling that the remaining men need an inheritance the other tribes go slaughter the Jabesh-Gileadites and their wives but finding 400 virgins they give these to the Benjamites. Jabesh Gilead is Benjamite territory so this is not to bad. But there remains and additional 200 men un-spoused. Picking a feast possibly tabernacles or Sukkot where the dances would be common place, the men of the tribes gather the Benjamites and when the virgins come dancing along the men remaining would lay in at the vineyards and then rise up and catch up a girl and take her home to Benjamin. Now first off this is not romantic this is rape and kidnapping. Second off the tribes had agreed that any tribe giving a daughter to Benjamin would be cursed. Third off these virgins are named. The Daughters Of Shiloh. This is a significant title likened unto the Daughters of Zion. These are Levite women slated fro the priests to marry Only Levites are allow or allotted these women! Finally the circumvented reasoning for the resultant complaint is frightening and if not that then laughable. "Give them to us (us being the other tribes) because we never took wives for the Benjamites in battle, you didn't give them to the Benjamites you gave them to us so the curse is not upon you" This unbalanced logic fails to take into consideration that theft of another mans children property chattel or spouse was prohibited in Torah law. However since noone cared for or knew Torah law what was difference? So now, the tribe will be rebuilt in Saul's day with the sin of sodomy homosexuality and kidnapping possibly statutory rape within its morals and ethics. And Israel allowed a man of this tribe to be King?!!!

Someone might say that somewhere someone was napping mentally but this is what you get when you have no government in the land. No king, no God, no rightful rule, no judges, nothing. Here's the punch line. Israel of old is as the church today, inextricably linked. Since God is One we must then see that the national Israel and the spiritual adopted Israel of the nations are both Israel, God's chosen people for an inheritance, in the Earth or land. This is a frightening punch line for if we draw this conclusion then we clearly see the mess of the church where there is no "king"




No King In Israel (or As He Leads...)

Bob Neumann, 10/1999

Judges 21:

25 In those days [there was] no king in Israel: every man did [that which was] right in his own eyes. (KJV)

Dearest Saints,

I had no intention of sending anything further out upon the internet because I was not being told to. I still believe obedience to ABBA wins out over self doubt or the criticism of those who want us to perceive them as ''brethern''. Today I received a post that was preceeded by this request below. For some reason i felt the need to respond with something to provoke thought and to point ''religious thinking'' back to THE THRONE were ABBA sits with TRUTH AND WISDOM at HIS RIGHT AND LEFT HAND. You may call this a ''teaching'' or even an ''article''. Titles matter little....as LONG as HIS WILL BE DONE.


Pray for our country for the socialists are trying to disarm us so the New World Order can come into existence by the year 2000. The One world Government spoken of in Revelation.



Forgive me for asking this question. Or should i say questions....but as a true watchman it is necessary to walk in both TRUTH and WISDOM.

Is this request for prayer for the United States of America birthed from a desire to see America spared Righteous Judgement, or is it in obedience to THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT?

Is this request for prayer scripturally correct?

Is this request for prayer from the GIFT of DISCERNING the MOST HOLY SPIRIT?

Please do not jump to any answers. Pray first and listen.....please, to GOD.

Looking at the original request we are called to pray because of the ''actions'' that would fulfill bible prophecy. In other words we are being called to pray against THE WORD OF GOD coming to pass. That is if you take this request at face value. Now most people think that any request for prayer and intercession must be ''of GOD''. I wished it were true. In fact most ''prayer'' is carnal in America today. "Lord, give me this....in Jesus NAME''.....but not in HIS WILL. Too often our prayers are efforts to get us out of the mistakes we made. Or worse, our demand for GOD to MOVE where HE told us not to go.

So, the answer to the questions is simple....if we are listening to HIS VOICE and obeying HIS WILL we will pray as children led by THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT. We will not pray out of fleshly wants, or worse....out of fear. Scripture says we are to put on the WHOLE ARMOR OF GOD and use the SWORD of THE SPIRIT....which is our prayer for our fellow saints. No where have i found where we are to pray against socialists, capitalists, democrats or republicans. In reality to pray against flesh and blood is nothing more than witchcraft. Our prayer warfare was specifically targeted through Paul to the POWERS, PRINCIPALITIES, and SPIRITUAL RULERS in places very high and very dark.

Is GOD asking us to pray for the NATIONAL entity of AMERICA....or for the ''lost'' in this once godly land? Would ABBA ask us to pray against men and not for them?

Would a HOLY GOD call an obedient child to pray for the wicked and rebellious

When other of HIS children are being persecuted by these same wicked and rebellious


A year ago i was told to understand what Jeremiah was forced to deal with. That his nation and his people had gone too far....

Jeremiah 7:16-17 Therefore pray not thou for this people, neither lift up cry nor prayer for them, neither make intercession to me: for I will not hear thee. 17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the streets of Jerusalem? (KJV)

Jeremiah 14:10-16 Thus saith the LORD unto this people, Thus have they loved to wander, they have not refrained their feet, therefore the LORD doth not accept them; he will now remember their iniquity, and visit their sins.

11 Then said the LORD unto me, Pray not for this people for [their] good.

12 When they fast, I will not hear their cry; and when they offer burnt offering and an oblation, I will not accept them: but I will consume them by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence.

13 Then said I, Ah, Lord GOD! behold, the prophets say unto them, Ye shall not see the sword, neither shall ye have famine; but I will give you assured peace in this place.

14 Then the LORD said unto me, The prophets prophesy lies in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and divination, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.

15 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning the prophets that prophesy in my name, and I sent them not, yet they say, Sword and famine shall not be in this land; By sword and famine shall those prophets be consumed.

16 And the people to whom they prophesy shall be cast out in the streets of Jerusalem because of the famine and the sword; and they shall have none to bury them, them, their wives, nor their sons, nor their daughters: for I will pour their wickedness upon them. (KJV)

Jeremiah 15:1-6 Then said the LORD unto me, Though Moses and Samuel stood before me, [yet] my mind [could] not [be] toward this people: cast [them] out of my sight, and let them go forth.

2 And it shall come to pass, if they say unto thee, Whither shall we go forth? Then thou shalt tell them, Thus saith the LORD; Such as [are] for death, to death; and such as [are] for the sword, to the sword; and such as [are] for the famine, to the famine; and such as [are] for the captivity, to the captivity.

3 And I will appoint over them four kinds, saith the LORD: the sword to slay, and the dogs to tear, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the earth, to devour and destroy.

4 And I will cause them to be removed into all kingdoms of the earth, because of Manasseh the son of Hezekiah king of Judah, for [that] which he did in Jerusalem.

5 For who shall have pity upon thee, O Jerusalem? Or who shall bemoan thee? Or who shall go aside to ask how thou doest?

6 Thou hast forsaken me, saith the LORD, thou art gone backward: therefore will I stretch out my hand against thee, and destroy thee; I am weary with repenting. (KJV)

I pray as and when THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT leads.....to do other wise is only doing what is ''right in our own eyes".


old dog




Teshuvah And The Transgressions

Bob Neumann, 9/1998

THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT is the agent of repentance. We know and accept that no one can get to the FATHER except through the SON. “I AM THE WAY, THE TRUTH, AND THE LIFE....”, but we forget that no man can come to repentance and salvation through the BLOOD of THE LAMB (PESACH) unless the SPIRIT (RUACH and SHAVUOT) draws them.

What we never were taught was that all these images of new testament Christianity are based on the prophetic ‘shadows’ of the FEASTS as MANIFESTED in our LORD JESUS CHRIST.

TESHUVAH is the PERIOD, or if you are a dispensationalist, DISPENSATION of GRACE. (Call it the Church AGE) And the main purpose for this as Peter taught in:

Acts 2:

16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;

17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

18 And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:

19 And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:

20 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:

21 And it shall come to pass, [that] whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.

22 Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: (KJV)

THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT speaks to us in dreams and visions because HE HAS BEEN poured out to make us turn away from our transgressions.

Job 33 states it clearly...

14 For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.

15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed;

16 Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction,

17 That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man.

18 He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword.

Physical and spiritual death can be held at bay by THE MIGHTY RIGHT HAND of the FATHER if we listen to HIS VOICE and repent, turn away, and return.

One of the greatest tragedies in all of scripture is the failure of King Solomon to follow YHVH, in spite of direct revelation and WISDOM. So far the failure of ‘‘the church’’ to notice that they walk in Solomon’s arrogant and self righteous steps makes these final days critical.

The Apostate Laodicean church goes out of their way to water down the Gospel of THE KINGDOM and substitute what will tickle the most ears. They preach revival without repentance by sometimes preaching remorse without ‘turning from your wicked ways’. They preach restoration without redemption, buying back what you ‘gave away’. That is the whole rationale of scriptural JUBILEE. And finally they preach healing without dying to self.

This is evidenced by the abuse of 2 Chron 7:14....

I need to ask a serious question. How many of you start a statement or a conversation with the word “if”? so why would GOD?

King Solomon was already walking away from GOD prior to the completion of the TEMPLE. The work was completed when....the Seventh Month.....and the FEASTS where the reason for the “dedication ceremony”. Only Solomon was not right with YHVH. But our GOD made a covenant with HIS SERVANT DAVID, and GOD KEEPS HIS PROMISES. The full story begins in Chapter 5....

1 Thus all the work that Solomon made for the house of the LORD was finished: and Solomon brought in all the things that David his father had dedicated; and the silver, and the gold, and all the instruments, put he among the treasures of the house of God.

2 Then Solomon assembled the elders of Israel, and all the heads of the tribes, the chief of the fathers of the children of Israel, unto Jerusalem, to bring up the ark of the covenant of the LORD out of the city of David, which is Zion.

3 Wherefore all the men of Israel assembled themselves unto the king in the feast which was in the seventh month. .......

12......, and with them an hundred and twenty priests sounding with trumpets:)

13 It came even to pass, as the trumpeters and singers were as one, to make one sound to be heard in praising and thanking the LORD; and when they lifted up their voice with the trumpets and cymbals and instruments of musick, and praised the LORD, saying, For he is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: that then the house was filled with a cloud, even the house of the LORD;

This was ROSH HA SHANAH, and THE GLORY FILLED HIS HOUSE, and Ch 6 has old SOLOMON’S great prayer. It proves he knew what GOD wanted but never did it. 2 Chron 7:14 is FATHER GOD repeating SOLOMON’S words to him as a last warning and prophecy.

36 If they sin against thee, (for there is no man which sinneth not,) and thou be angry with them, and deliver them over before their enemies, and they carry them away captives unto a land far off or near;

37 Yet if they bethink themselves in the land whither they are carried captive, and turn and pray unto thee in the land of their captivity, saying, We have sinned, we have done amiss, and have dealt wickedly;

38 If they return to thee with all their heart and with all their soul in the land of their captivity, whither they have carried them captives, and pray toward their land, which thou gavest unto their fathers, and toward the city which thou hast chosen, and toward the house which I have built for thy name:

39 Then hear thou from the heavens, even from thy dwelling place, their prayer and their supplications, and maintain their cause, and forgive thy people which have sinned against thee.

40 Now, my God, let, I beseech thee, thine eyes be open, and let thine ears be attent unto the prayer that is made in this place.

41 Now therefore arise, O LORD God, into thy resting place, thou, and the ark of thy strength: let thy priests, O LORD God, be clothed with salvation, and let thy saints rejoice in goodness.

42 O LORD God, turn not away the face of thine anointed: remember the mercies of David thy servant.

Verses 38 and 39 are the key. When a sinful people who have been carried away into captivity finally wake up, come to their senses and finally repent GOD will be FAITHFUL.

Solomon’s Prayer. SELAH.

Now GOD speaks....

2 Chronicles 7:

10 And on the three and twentieth day of the seventh month he sent the people away into their tents, glad and merry in heart for the goodness that the LORD had shewed unto David, and to Solomon, and to Israel his people.

11 Thus Solomon finished the house of the LORD, and the king’s house: and all that came into Solomon’s heart to make in the house of the LORD, and in his own house, he prosperously effected.

12 And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.

13 If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

15 Now mine eyes shall be open, and mine ears attent unto the prayer [that is made] in this place.

16 For now have I chosen and sanctified this house, that my name may be there for ever: and mine eyes and mine heart shall be there perpetually.

17 And as for thee, if thou wilt walk before me, as David thy father walked, and do according to all that I have commanded thee, and shalt observe my statutes and my judgments; (KJV)

Now this is important. the GLORY came down on ROSH HA SHANNAH. Then the fire fell and burned up the sacrifice YOM KIPPUR. And now THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT speaks on the 23rd day of the seventh month, the next to last day of the FEAST of TABERNACLES, SUCCOT. Check out what JESUS taught on that day in the TEMPLE.

All the people in Jerusalem returned to their tents. Why use a tent in a city? Because they were obeying the instructions for SUCCOT, living seven days in booths/’tents’/’succots. If you excuse my bad attempt at HEBREW.

GOD spoke the LAST TIME to unrepentant Solomon. This should be the highest point in SOLOMON’S Reign, only it isn’t, let’s look again here....

12 And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.

13 If I shut up heaven that there be no rain, or if I command the locusts to devour the land, or if I send pestilence among my people;

14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

GOD follows the pattern from JOB and speaks to Solomon at night, and says ‘I HEARD YOUR PRAYERS.

So when I send draught, AMOS 8 And when I send locusts, Joel And then send pestilence, REV 9 Then ‘if my people.....’

But it takes major calamity to befall these people to turn them to GOD.... How bad must it get here in American Babylon to force ‘HIS PEOPLE ‘to repent and return?

JESUS warned those in Laodicea.…

19 As many as I love, I rebuke and chasten: be zealous therefore, and repent.

20 Behold, I stand at the door, and knock: if any man hear my voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with me.

21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

22 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches.

So we the remnant intercede and fast and weep and mourn, but the WORD is clear.

Revelation 6:

12 And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;

13 And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.

14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.

15 And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;

16 And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

17 For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?

Revelation 9:

20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:

21 Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

Revelation 16:

9 And men were scorched with great heat, and blasphemed the name of God, which hath power over these plagues: and they repented not to give him glory.

10 And the fifth angel poured out his vial upon the seat of the beast; and his kingdom was full of darkness; and they gnawed their tongues for pain,

11 And blasphemed the God of heaven because of their pains and their sores, and repented not of their deeds.

TESHUVAH is the last chance to come to our senses, to repent and return to a loving FATHER who SENT HIS LAMB. And THE LAMB sent the SPIRIT.... now we weep and pray. For we are marked...





The Three Witnesses...

Bob Neumann, 2/1999

It seems the TIMES have shifted and the NEW SEASON is upon us, yet so many are trying to survive winter in summer clothes. The plowman has only a scythe in hand and no training on how to handle a plow....or the yoke in front of it.

THE MASTER is flooding me with images and I see the wrongness on the earth standing beside what HE HAS declared. Nothing will come to blossom and harvest till the littlest things are taken care of....and man is not interested in the details of GOD.... So I share with you now the three witnesses against America and the church......

Proverbs 20:1-12

1 Wine [is] a mocker, strong drink [is] raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.

Many now drink of the wrong spirit. They too are spirit-filled, and “glory in their abomination”. They mock what is of GOD and “rage” is their fruit that all ABBA’S faithful servants taste from them.

2 The fear of a king [is] as the roaring of a lion: [whoso] provoketh him to anger sinneth [against] his own soul.

Those of the “wrong spirit” provoke the LION who is KING, who is also THE LAMB whose only task the FATHER has yet not done is THE TREADING of the WINEPRESS of the WRATH of GOD. Foolish are they who provoke HE who has both the AUTHORITY and the DUTY to destroy body, soul, and spirit.....by HIS WORDS.

3 [It is] an honour for a man to cease from strife: but every fool will be meddling.

The FAMINE follows the SWORD....only those who see the coming SWORD will be wise and prepare habitation for the ‘times’ ahead. And each servant who walks in THE FEAR of the LORD will be surrounded by fools who come against GOD unaware of their danger.

4 The sluggard will not plow by reason of the cold; [therefore] shall he beg in harvest, and [have] nothing.

Too many fail to see the change in the season and will be caught in the day they know not for they preferred the honor of the sluggard over the diligence of the seeker...

5 Counsel in the heart of man [is like] deep water; but a man of understanding will draw it out.

We were given deep wells of cold clear water....only you had to draw....work...do something to drink it....so many settle for the tepid dregs in the bottom of the bucket because they are just too stupid and to lazy to haul it up....

6 Most men will proclaim every one his own goodness: but a faithful man who can find?

This is where we now sit in the flow of time....and the TEMPLE is filled with Pharisees exalting themselves. So filled to the point where no sinner can now come in. AMOS 9:1 is now here and the proud and arrogant are completely unaware their fate.

7 The just [man] walketh in his integrity: his children [are] blessed after him.

It is time to walk away from the fleshpots of EGYPT and to lead the CHILDREN to GOSHEN where a place has been prepared....it is not how we expected JOHN 14 to play out....our fault and not listening as well as we could have....for...

8 A king that sitteth in the throne of judgment scattereth away all evil with his eyes.


9 Who can say, I have made my heart clean, I am pure from my sin?


10 Divers weights, [and] divers measures, both of them [are] alike abomination to the LORD.

Once again we are in the midst of the SEVEN THUNDERS and the wicked continue to do wickedly and will not flee their BABYLONS...

11 Even a child is known by his doings, whether his work [be] pure, and whether [it be] right.

Every child knows right from wrong...but the wicked chooses wrong and abides in his abomination. the ‘child’ knows the WAYS and WILL of THE FATHER. and our ABBA will save “the SONS who SERVE”.

12 The hearing ear, and the seeing eye, the LORD hath made even both of them.

Only those who ‘hear’ what THE SPIRIT says into the CHURCHES ‘see’ the STORM that comes to wash the house off the sand.

Psalm 24:1-10

A Psalm of David.

1 The earth [is] the LORD’S, and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

There will be no doubt of this as the seals are broken, the trumpets sound, and the bowls are poured.

2 For he hath founded it upon the seas, and established it upon the floods.

It was HIS WORK, not man’s...

3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?

Only THE LAMB WHO IS A LION CAN decide to whom HIS FAVOR IS GIVEN. And the requirements are made clear so no man should cry “LORD! LORD!”, but so many will.

4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

5 He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.


6 This [is] the generation of them that seek him, that seek thy face, O Jacob. Selah.


7 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; and be ye lift up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

8 Who [is] this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.

9 Lift up your heads, O ye gates; even lift [them] up, ye everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

10 Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he [is] the King of glory. Selah.


Psalm 51:1-19

To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David, when Nathan the prophet came unto him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba.

1. Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions.

2 Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.

3 For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin [is] ever before me.

Oh, LORD forgive YOUR SERVANT, for YOU ALONE I await. YOU ALONE I serve. YOU ALONE I love.

4 Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done [this] evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, [and] be clear when thou judgest.

5 Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

6 Behold, thou desirest truth in the inward parts: and in the hidden [part] thou shalt make me to know wisdom.

YOU have SPOKEN and I HAVE HEARD and I OBEY. Only YOU can forgive and blot out my transgressions. As YOUR MOST HOLY SPIRIT brings conviction to my inner man and all that is in me turns back and runs to YOU all things are restored.

7 Purge me with hyssop, and I shall be clean: wash me, and I shall be whiter than snow.

And to restore means to be clean again...

8 Make me to hear joy and gladness; [that] the bones [which] thou hast broken may rejoice.

And to restore means the pain is removed and the wounds are healed...

9 Hide thy face from my sins, and blot out all mine iniquities.

10 Create in me a clean heart, O God; and renew a right spirit within me.

11 Cast me not away from thy presence; and take not thy holy spirit from me.

12 Restore unto me the joy of thy salvation; and uphold me [with thy] free spirit.

13 [Then] will I teach transgressors thy ways; and sinners shall be converted unto thee.

14 Deliver me from bloodguiltiness, O God, thou God of my salvation: [and] my tongue shall sing aloud of thy righteousness.

15 O Lord, open thou my lips; and my mouth shall shew forth thy praise.

16 For thou desirest not sacrifice; else would I give [it]: thou delightest not in burnt offering.

17 The sacrifices of God [are] a broken spirit: a broken and a contrite heart, O God, thou wilt not despise.

18 Do good in thy good pleasure unto Zion: build thou the walls of Jerusalem.

19 Then shalt thou be pleased with the sacrifices of righteousness, with burnt offering and whole burnt offering: then shall they offer bullocks upon thine altar.

HIS WORD SAYS THEIR ARE SEVEN SPIRITS OF GOD.... THE RIGHT SPIRIT....HIS FREE SPIRIT....unbound and unfettered will restore what has been stolen....what has been defiled....what is in bondage.

But which of HIS SEVEN SPIRITS do we look now for....

Or is it THE FULLNESS where all SEVEN come forth....

Only those broken and contrite will know...

Only those who have been humbled and laid bare can stand....

Only those whose hearts are pure....whose hands are clean.... whose ‘eyes’ are blind to the world.... whose ‘ears’ are deaf to the lies of the deceiver.... whose ‘heart’ is steadfast on the COURTS of THE LORD.... will ascend .....


By two or more witnesses shall it be established.

So shall it be.





The Thunder, The Trumpet And The Seal

Bob Neumann, 9/1999


I have been trying to run from this for well over a week. Every week I look to see if anyone else has done what I have not. Whether anyone else has seen and heard and then shared what I have not shared. Is this a “word” or a jumble of images that can have no meaning to anyone else. Too long I have tried to use that excuse to put aside this last job. That is the only way to evaluate this. Maybe not the best way in the long run, but right now the only one available to me.

It all came to a head on Tuesday Night 9/7/99. We had been enjoying and receiving ministry from Evangelist Nick White who came to us with one message and a few scripture verses. But it was a timely WORD from ABBA. He placed a question and a challenge. “WHICH IS EASIER?” It was based on JESUS’ WORDS to the scribes and Pharisees in Mark 2:9-12 :

9 Whether is it easier to say to the sick of the palsy, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Arise, and take up thy bed, and walk?

10 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power on earth to forgive sins, (he saith to the sick of the palsy,)

11 I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy bed, and go thy way into thine house.

12 And immediately he arose, took up the bed, and went forth before them all; insomuch that they were all amazed, and glorified God, saying, We never saw it on this fashion. (KJV)

This account also appears in Luke but has a hard twist to it.....

Luke 5:16-26

16 And he withdrew himself into the wilderness, and prayed.

17 And it came to pass on a certain day, as he was teaching, that there were Pharisees and doctors of the law sitting by, which were come out of every town of Galilee, and Judea, and Jerusalem: and the power of the Lord was present to heal them.

18 And, behold, men brought in a bed a man which was taken with a palsy: and they sought means to bring him in, and to lay him before him.

19 And when they could not find by what way they might bring him in because of the multitude, they went upon the housetop, and let him down through the tiling with his couch into the midst before Jesus.

20 And when he saw their faith, he said unto him, Man, thy sins are forgiven thee.

21 And the scribes and the Pharisees began to reason, saying, Who is this which speaketh blasphemies? Who can forgive sins, but God alone?

22 But when Jesus perceived their thoughts, he answering said unto them, What reason ye in your hearts?

23 Whether is easier, to say, Thy sins be forgiven thee; or to say, Rise up and walk?

24 But that ye may know that the Son of man hath power upon earth to forgive sins, (he said unto the sick of the palsy,) I say unto thee, Arise, and take up thy couch, and go into thine house.

25 And immediately he rose up before them, and took up that whereon he lay, and departed to his own house, glorifying God.

26 And they were all amazed, and they glorified God, and were filled with fear, saying, We have seen strange things to day. (KJV)

So which is easier? To man the impossible things are easy when left in HIS HANDS. Yet we were all called one way or another to make it easy on and for ourselves.

Matthew 11:25-30

25 At that time Jesus answered and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes.

26 Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight.

27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him.

28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

29 Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

30 For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light. (KJV)

I never looked at how this prayer to ABBA suddenly turned into a plea to me and anyone else to lay our burdens and agendas, our failures and our vanities, our fears and our wrong thinking upon HIM. Then we could learn from HIM HIS WAYS....which truly are easy and light and HE WOULD GIVE US REST.

Isaiah 30:15-22

15 For thus saith the Lord GOD, the Holy One of Israel; In returning and rest shall ye be saved; in quietness and in confidence shall be your strength: and ye would not.

16 But ye said, No; for we will flee upon horses; therefore shall ye flee: and, We will ride upon the swift; therefore shall they that pursue you be swift.

17 One thousand shall flee at the rebuke of one; at the rebuke of five shall ye flee: till ye be left as a beacon upon the top of a mountain, and as an ensign on an hill.

18 And therefore will the LORD wait, that he may be gracious unto you, and therefore will he be exalted, that he may have mercy upon you: for the LORD is a God of judgment: blessed are all they that wait for him.

19 For the people shall dwell in Zion at Jerusalem: thou shalt weep no more: he will be very gracious unto thee at the voice of thy cry; when he shall hear it, he will answer thee.

20 And though the Lord give you the bread of adversity, and the water of affliction, yet shall not thy teachers be removed into a corner any more, but thine eyes shall see thy teachers:

21 And thine ears shall hear a word behind thee, saying, This is the way, walk ye in it, when ye turn to the right hand, and when ye turn to the left.

22 Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence. (KJV)

And for ten days I have been hearing THUNDER in the realms both spiritual and natural. On that Tuesday night I “heard” volleys of THUNDER and saw “flashes” of LIGHTNING throughout the evening service no one else heard. No one else saw. It was to the east and the south. Three days later we were told that a “STORM” was east and south of us called Floyd. Yesterday the THUNDER came from the NORTH and the EAST. Once again the sky was clear but now the sun shone brightly for it was day not night. Another “STORM” is coming. It will come from the “NORTH” and the “EAST” in my plane of reference. It will be greater than FLOYD in damage. It will come from a place we do not expect. Solid image that sends chills through my spirit man which I can not see any clearer than I now state.



For the last year I have been “blessed” with many images and visions. But so have many others. Everyday we find people sharing the dreams, visions, words, revelations, rhemas, teachings, instructions, (whatever you might call it) that they have “received” or that were forwarded to them. So much, by so many, yet in my spirit so little of it all touches me. If it all was from ABBA I should be rejoicing and not grieving. Yet so much sound produces so little instruction. Many say things that appear to be spiritual and proper, yet there is no witness to much that comes forth. Worse is the strange dichotomy between the continuous “words of warning and judgement” and the everpresent “calls to intimacy”. For a season each had it’s place, but who now discerns season or purpose.

Teshuvah came and there were few “calls to repentance”. So when Rosh Ha’ Shannah came and passed into the DAYS of AWE where were the calls to turn again to THE LORD? Where was the warning of Yom HaDin, the Day of Judgement? Are the Servants prepared to place HIS TALENTS at HIS FEET on HIS RETURN? Does anyone remember the idea of their name written in THE BOOK OF LIFE?

It is said the NAMES are written on ROSH HA’SHANNAH....and the BOOK IS SEALED ON YOM KIPPUR.

Have you heard the trumpet calling us to move the camp? Did the princes gather to hear the instruction YHVH has given? Or is the TRUMPET TO SOUND only for worship and battle? If so then why would the TRUMPET be sounded on the coming of THE BRIDEGROOM? Certainly YOM TERUAH need not apply if we throw out all the scriptures it applies to that say the DEAD shall AWAKEN and both the earth and the sea will no longer hold them.

I hear THE CALL to Battle and THE CALL to Worship daily. Many do. But does the nation change? Do the nations change?

Amos 3:1-15

1 Hear this word that the LORD hath spoken against you, O children of Israel, against the whole family which I brought up from the land of Egypt, saying,

2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will punish you for all your iniquities.

3 Can two walk together, except they be agreed?

4 Will a lion roar in the forest, when he hath no prey? will a young lion cry out of his den, if he have taken nothing?

5 Can a bird fall in a snare upon the earth, where no gin is for him? shall one take up a snare from the earth, and have taken nothing at all?

6 Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be evil in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?

7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.

8 The lion hath roared, who will not fear? the Lord GOD hath spoken, who can but prophesy?

9 Publish in the palaces at Ashdod, and in the palaces in the land of Egypt, and say, Assemble yourselves upon the mountains of Samaria, and behold the great tumults in the midst thereof, and the oppressed in the midst thereof.

10 For they know not to do right, saith the LORD, who store up violence and robbery in their palaces.

11 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD; An adversary there shall be even round about the land; and he shall bring down thy strength from thee, and thy palaces shall be spoiled.

12 Thus saith the LORD; As the shepherd taketh out of the mouth of the lion two legs, or a piece of an ear; so shall the children of Israel be taken out that dwell in Samaria in the corner of a bed, and in Damascus in a couch.

13 Hear ye, and testify in the house of Jacob, saith the Lord GOD, the God of hosts,

14 That in the day that I shall visit the transgressions of Israel upon him I will also visit the altars of Bethel: and the horns of the altar shall be cut off, and fall to the ground.

15 And I will smite the winter house with the summer house; and the houses of ivory shall perish, and the great houses shall have an end, saith the LORD. (KJV)

The TRUMPET sounds, the SHOFAR is blown. Yet none hear. Warning upon warning has been given. But who understands that the “HORNS OF THE ALTER” are “‘cut off”‘? In Beth-EL? THE HOUSE OF GOD? The blood of many flowed this week in HIS HOUSE. Will the guardians of the sheep boast that all that was saved from the teeth of the “adversary” is but a piece of an ear and some legs?

Great tumults are still to come, but violence and robbery are throughout a land lawless and has no FEAR OF GOD. YOM KIPPUR has come and there will be no scapegoat. For THE LAMB WAS SLAIN. Yet THE LAMB WAS SLAIN TO PROVIDE a NEW COVENANT. Yet the BOOK of LIFE must still be sealed.



There is a remnant who Fears THE LORD, who serve THE HOLY ONE ALONE. They are the ones whom THE LAMB has removed the CURSE. The ones who chose THE NEW COVENANT over the covenant of death.

Isaiah 28:14-22

14 Wherefore hear the word of the LORD, ye scornful men, that rule this people which is in Jerusalem.

15 Because ye have said, We have made a covenant with death, and with hell are we at agreement; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

17 Judgment also will I lay to the line, and righteousness to the plummet: and the hail shall sweep away the refuge of lies, and the waters shall overflow the hiding place.

18 And your covenant with death shall be disannulled, and your agreement with hell shall not stand; when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, then ye shall be trodden down by it.

19 From the time that it goeth forth it shall take you: for morning by morning shall it pass over, by day and by night: and it shall be a vexation only to understand the report.

20 For the bed is shorter than that a man can stretch himself on it: and the covering narrower than that he can wrap himself in it.

21 For the LORD shall rise up as in mount Perazim, he shall be wroth as in the valley of Gibeon, that he may do his work, his strange work; and bring to pass his act, his strange act.

22 Now therefore be ye not mockers, lest your bands be made strong: for I have heard from the Lord GOD of hosts a consumption, even determined upon the whole earth. (KJV)

The overflowing scourge has begun....the TIME of INDIGNATION is upon us....just as it was written. Just as we were warned. So many still speak of the “coming shaking” and the “coming sifting”. Why did they not notice it over the last 20 years? So many are “vexed”, troubled, and even angered even attempting to understand that THE LORD has spoken already. What more need HE do to warn a rebellious people?

The NICOLAITANS have cut deals with the enemy. Made covenant with the princes of this world to maintain their place, position, and power. Many are instructed to pray for blessings and favor for these wicked servants, ruthless shepherds with deep sincerity believing that it is GOD’S WILL to bless when HE actually is cursing. For that reason the “HORNS of the ALTER” are “cut off” and all prayer directed through deception and manipulation will be stopped.

Revelation 7:1-17

1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea,

3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads.

4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.

5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.

6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.

7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.

8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.

11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,

12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.

13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?

14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.

15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.

16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.

17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes. (KJV)

So we have a choice. We can chose to be sealed and separated unto our GOD in COVENANT.

Ezekiel 9:4-11

4 And the LORD said unto him, Go through the midst of the city, through the midst of Jerusalem, and set a mark upon the foreheads of the men that sigh and that cry for all the abominations that be done in the midst thereof.

5 And to the others he said in mine hearing, Go ye after him through the city, and smite: let not your eye spare, neither have ye pity:

6 Slay utterly old and young, both maids, and little children, and women: but come not near any man upon whom is the mark; and begin at my sanctuary. Then they began at the ancient men which were before the house.

7 And he said unto them, Defile the house, and fill the courts with the slain: go ye forth. And they went forth, and slew in the city.

8 And it came to pass, while they were slaying them, and I was left, that I fell upon my face, and cried, and said, Ah Lord GOD! wilt thou destroy all the residue of Israel in thy pouring out of thy fury upon Jerusalem?

9 Then said he unto me, The iniquity of the house of Israel and Judah is exceeding great, and the land is full of blood, and the city full of perverseness: for they say, The LORD hath forsaken the earth, and the LORD seeth not.

10 And as for me also, mine eye shall not spare, neither will I have pity, but I will recompense their way upon their head.

11 And, behold, the man clothed with linen, which had the inkhorn by his side, reported the matter, saying, I have done as thou hast commanded me. (KJV)

It has begun.







Too Little Too Late The Judgment Comes

Bob Neumann, 8/1999

Has it been too little too late.....or are things so much deeper and involved that we could never properly comprehend but a sliver of all that there is to know. As of today all the Basilisk stuff...

All the controversy is really past tense.... Will people be going back to it or will they begin to look ahead.... Will they continue to preach jubilee without end....

Continuous blessings with no regard to time or season....

Today is the ninth of AV...50 days from now is Rosh Ha SHANNAH.... 1998 is over and few think as ABBA does. Over the years i have wondered why ABBA stays in patterns no one recognizes. Then you remember the concept of a workman approved....we are to seek HIM. But the ''church'' says HE will meet us in 'our need'. That too was but for a season I believe....

So we enter as of today a 21 day period that ends on the beginning of TESHUVAH the 30 days of "REMEMBERING". That leads to teshuvah....'turning back' and returning to GOD. We would call it repentance, but it is just another 'word' to so many.

30 days prior to YOM TERAH, the head of the YEAR we begin each day by reading the 27th Psalm and add as we count down to the 57th psalm.


Questions a fearful generation can not answer because we live 'for the gusto'..... Yet we were told to die daily to self, and most were never really taught it were they?

But we end with....Psalm 57:1-11

1 To the chief Musician, Altaschith, Michtam of David, when he fled from Saul in the cave. Be merciful unto me, O God, be merciful unto me: for my soul trusteth in thee: yea, in the shadow of thy wings will I make my refuge, until these calamities be overpast.

2 I will cry unto God most high; unto God that performeth all things for me.

3 He shall send from heaven, and save me from the reproach of him that would swallow me up. Selah. God shall send forth his mercy and his truth.

4 My soul is among lions: and I lie even among them that are set on fire, even the sons of men, whose teeth are spears and arrows, and their tongue a sharp sword.

5 Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens; let thy glory be above all the earth.

6 They have prepared a net for my steps; my soul is bowed down: they have digged a pit before me, into the midst whereof they are fallen themselves. Selah.

7 My heart is fixed, O God, my heart is fixed: I will sing and give praise.

8 Awake up, my glory; awake, psaltery and harp: I myself will awake early.

9 I will praise thee, O Lord, among the people: I will sing unto thee among the nations.

10 For thy mercy is great unto the heavens, and thy truth unto the clouds.

11 Be thou exalted, O God, above the heavens: let thy glory be above all the earth. (KJV)

DAUGHTER OF ZION.... If our battle cry is not "BE EXALTED OH GOD>>>" Then what could it be? An apostate church says 'bless me , bless me , bless me....now!' and sees no problem at all because their teachers and prophets have lead them there.

Yet if the progression of these psalms is continued there is some 'heavy' implications.... on YOM TERAH....ROSH HA SHANNAH...we would read Psalm 58:1-11

1 To the chief Musician, Altaschith, Michtam of David. Do ye indeed speak righteousness, O congregation? do ye judge uprightly, O ye sons of men?

2 Yea, in heart ye work wickedness; ye weigh the violence of your hands in the earth.

3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: they go astray as soon as they be born, speaking lies.

4 Their poison is like the poison of a serpent: they are like the deaf adder that stoppeth her ear;

5 Which will not hearken to the voice of charmers, charming never so wisely.

6 Break their teeth, O God, in their mouth: break out the great teeth of the young lions, O LORD.

7 Let them melt away as waters which run continually: when he bendeth his bow to shoot his arrows, let them be as cut in pieces.

8 As a snail which melteth, let every one of them pass away: like the untimely birth of a woman, that they may not see the sun.

9 Before your pots can feel the thorns, he shall take them away as with a whirlwind, both living, and in his wrath.

10 The righteous shall rejoice when he seeth the vengeance: he shall wash his feet in the blood of the wicked.

11 So that a man shall say, Verily there is a reward for the righteous: verily he is a God that judgeth in the earth. (KJV)


But go nine more days...to YOM KIPPUR....Psalm 67:1-7

1 To the chief Musician on Neginoth, A Psalm or Song. God be merciful unto us, and bless us; and cause his face to shine upon us; Selah.

2 That thy way may be known upon earth, thy saving health among all nations.

3 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee.

4 O let the nations be glad and sing for joy: for thou shalt judge the people righteously, and govern the nations upon earth. Selah.

5 Let the people praise thee, O God; let all the people praise thee.

6 Then shall the earth yield her increase; and God, even our own God, shall bless us.

7 God shall bless us; and all the ends of the earth shall fear him. (KJV)

If we have turned back to our GOD we indeed have reason to rejoice. But if we did not? If covenant is indeed broken and GOD is mocked?

Psalm 68:1-35 (SELAH)...

1 To the chief Musician, A Psalm or Song of David. Let God arise, let his enemies be scattered: let them also that hate him flee before him.

2 As smoke is driven away, so drive them away: as wax melteth before the fire, so let the wicked perish at the presence of God.

3 But let the righteous be glad; let them rejoice before God: yea, let them exceedingly rejoice.

4 Sing unto God, sing praises to his name: extol him that rideth upon the heavens by his name JAH, and rejoice before him.

5 A father of the fatherless, and a judge of the widows, is God in his holy habitation.

6 God setteth the solitary in families: he bringeth out those which are bound with chains: but the rebellious dwell in a dry land.

7 O God, when thou wentest forth before thy people, when thou didst march through the wilderness; Selah:

8 The earth shook, the heavens also dropped at the presence of God: even Sinai itself was moved at the presence of God, the God of Israel.

9 Thou, O God, didst send a plentiful rain, whereby thou didst confirm thine inheritance, when it was weary.

10 Thy congregation hath dwelt therein: thou, O God, hast prepared of thy goodness for the poor.

11 The Lord gave the word: great was the company of those that published it.

12 Kings of armies did flee apace: and she that tarried at home divided the spoil.

13 Though ye have lien among the pots, yet shall ye be as the wings of a dove covered with silver, and her feathers with yellow gold.

14 When the Almighty scattered kings in it, it was white as snow in Salmon.

15 The hill of God is as the hill of Bashan; an high hill as the hill of Bashan.

16 Why leap ye, ye high hills? this is the hill which God desireth to dwell in; yea, the

LORD will dwell in it for ever.

17 The chariots of God are twenty thousand, even thousands of angels: the Lord is among them, as in Sinai, in the holy place.

18 Thou hast ascended on high, thou hast led captivity captive: thou hast received gifts for men; yea, for the rebellious also, that the LORD God might dwell among them.

19 Blessed be the Lord, who daily loadeth us with benefits, even the God of our salvation.


20 He that is our God is the God of salvation; and unto GOD the Lord belong the issues from death.

21 But God shall wound the head of his enemies, and the hairy scalp of such an one as goeth on still in his trespasses.

22 The Lord said, I will bring again from Bashan, I will bring my people again from the depths of the sea:

23 That thy foot may be dipped in the blood of thine enemies, and the tongue of thy dogs in the same.

24 They have seen thy goings, O God; even the goings of my God, my King, in the sanctuary.

25 The singers went before, the players on instruments followed after; among them were the damsels playing with timbrels.

26 Bless ye God in the congregations, even the Lord, from the fountain of Israel.

27 There is little Benjamin with their ruler, the princes of Judah and their council, the princes of Zebulun, and the princes of Naphtali.

28 Thy God hath commanded thy strength: strengthen, O God, that which thou hast wrought for us.

29 Because of thy temple at Jerusalem shall kings bring presents unto thee.

30 Rebuke the company of spearmen, the multitude of the bulls, with the calves of the people, till every one submit himself with pieces of silver: scatter thou the people that delight in war.

31 Princes shall come out of Egypt; Ethiopia shall soon stretch out her hands unto God.

32 Sing unto God, ye kingdoms of the earth; O sing praises unto the Lord; Selah:

33 To him that rideth upon the heavens of heavens, which were of old; lo, he doth send out his voice, and that a mighty voice.

34 Ascribe ye strength unto God: his excellency is over Israel, and his strength is in the clouds.

35 O God, thou art terrible out of thy holy places: the God of Israel is he that giveth strength and power unto his people. Blessed be God. (KJV)

If the historians are right on the death of HEROD the GREAT, we are about to enter year 6004 or 6005....getting late on the eschatology time line..... But does anyone stop and look at the world around them? Does anyone recall all the "WORDS'' spoken that are yet to be completed? Alot to happen in little time....that is if GOD IS GOD? Most people do not see HIM as LORD....so could care less.... That alone should warn us that HIS INDIGNATION will not wait much longer.

selah bob in miami