Lakeland – Series

Signs And Wonders (Lakeland #1)                     - 5/2008 - Article

The Mystery Of Iniquity (Lakeland #2)               - 5/2008 - Article

Charisma Post - Serpent Seed (Lakeland #3)   - 5/2008 - Article

Serpent Seed (Lakeland #4)                                 - 5/2008 - Article

Charisma Response To "David" (Lakeland #5) - 5/2008 - Article

Final Response (Lakeland #6)                             - 5/2008 - Article

Accuser Of The Brethren (Lakeland #7)            - 5/2008 - Article

AT THE CIRCUS (Lakeland #8)                            - 5/2008 - Article

 

 

Signs And Wonders (Lakeland #1)

Bob Neumann, May 18, 2008

Over the last 4 weeks I have had a virtual deluge of posts from people asking my “thoughts” or “feelings” about what is occurring in Lakeland, Florida. Now I have been concerned about the PRINCIPALITY over central Florida since I was told to be in Lakeland for one night in 1995. October 31st, 1995. On Friday morning I went to my email box and found 64 posts asking about this issue. It was only an accumulation of 8 hours. The one that THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT GUIDED me to was an “http” link. Here it is…http://www.charismamag.com/fireinmybones/

There I went and found myself on CHARISMA MAGAZINE’S online editorial by J Lee Grady. As I read it I felt THE GRIEF of THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT. I responded to that post and it is the 71st in the list. So once again I am “interacting” on the WWW.

After reading the editorial and the comments posted I was struck by several things, the most glaring is that no one could DISCERN what was going on and that the prayers asking for guidance and instruction have not been answered. Because Mr Grady had no answer for three weeks, so he sought guidance from men. He also decided to give three specific pieces of advice. None are directed by THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT. But in the third point he made, THE REAL PROBLEM was exposed.

3. Beware of hype and exaggeration. Our hearts are crying out today for a genuine move of God. We want the real deal. We’ve read about the Great Awakenings of the past and we long to see our nation overcome by a wave of repentance. The church is in a backslidden state, and our nation has rebelled against God. We are desperate!

Why would obedient servants of THE HEAVENLY FATHER who can readily HEAR HIS VOICE. The answer is simple. THE SAINTS OF GOD do not. Nor is anyone with an intimacy with GOD scrounging around for WHAT ABBA gives freely. What is clear to me the desperation in Mr Grady’s own words, is exactly what I have been hearing from individuals for years trapped in churches. What Mr Grady and most of those who responded to him are not aware of is that all of this was for-spoken by the Prophet Amos.

All what I am about to say I “said” in a posting to Charisma late this morning. In fact two Postings have not been posted. Which tells you someone, somewhere did not like what I had to say as guided by THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT. Tough on them I declare LOUDLY!

Amo 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD:

Amo 8:12 And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find [it].

AMEN. AMEN.

The problem is that in three verse we have AMOS 9:1 and no one will IGNORE THIS for it is about to happen. America and THE APOSTATE CHURCH turned away from THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL YEARS AGO. We have no real call to repentance from what is happening in LAKELAND. Many compare it to “THE WELSH REVIVAL”. That is a LIE FROM THE PIT! In WELSH whole populations of CHURCHES and CITIES called out TO THE MOST HIGH for forgiveness and lives changed drastically. Bars and taverns closed…. for years. Miners in the coal mines changed their speech. Stopped swearing and cursing and TURNED TO GOD! The evidence of changed lives has been documented and shared in AMERICAN CHURCHES for years.

Most comments on the CHARISMA website, and I took the time and effort to read them all, is about whether the “SIGNS AND WONDERS” happening in LAKELAND are of GOD. Many are asking, “What are LYING SIGNS AND WONDERS”? Just seeing this manifestation of two “end times” prophesies chills my spiritman.

“Manifestation” is a term thrown around by those who are concerned about the numerous little quirks of these events over the last twenty years that the opposition has “labeled” as “God Sent Revivals.” Those “concerned” have an opposing label for the same events and declare them as “OF THE DEVIL”. Unknowingly many who have aligned themselves on either side of this argument are part of some of the GREATEST PROPHESIES of JESUS HIMSELF and THE OLD TESTEMENT. As THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT slowly brought me to awareness and understanding two things have occurred in my own life.

First is a continuously increasing FEAR OF THE LORD. Frankly the concept of HOLY DREAD has become clear to my mind and my spirit. It goes far beyond any possible teaching originating from any man or denomination. This is so important that I have already been told that I will soon be required to teach this on the www. Which means there are facets and aspects of this Action ALMIGHTY GOD is now doing I will need to learn. Second is an understanding of THE TRUE PLAN OF GOD unfolding minute by minute. Many have “talked” about it over centuries, but we now see it come to the END and we will learn how far and above human knowledge and wisdom THE HOLY ONE OF ISRAEL ACTUALLY STANDS. This too was spoken throughout scriptures, but we are indeed childishly unaware of so much.

So in obedience I am beginning a “series” of articles/teachings many will label from their “personal” limitations. That is a direct concept I have received as I slowly type this out. THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT is in complete control. It might help many who read this and what will follow to understand THAT A SOVEREIGN GOD has HIS HAND ON EVERYTHING. All HIS SERVANTS are humans who are of flesh and blood. We have personalities and aspects of individuality that ABBA FATHER will use to give unique flavors and aromas to what HE IS COOKING UP and now lays before HIS CHILDREN.

So let all HIS CHILDREN do as what David sings about, “OH TASTE AND SEE THE GLORY OF THE LORD”. Go ahead, right now! Look up this psalm and read it with all desire to begin to comprehend all what is there for them. Let all HIS GOOD SERVANTS came and take their portion of REAL MEAT. Come now and partake for you need this to strengthen and nourish many who have been hungry for so long.

Now let us begin…. SIGNS AND WONDERS. FOUNDATIONAL TRUTH….

Exd 7:3 And I will harden Pharaoh's heart, and multiply my signs and my wonders in the land of Egypt.

This verse is the FIRST MENTION of the two terms we “understand” and “label” as “signs and wonders”. Many should now study chapter 7 of EXODUS to learn the CONTEXT where GOD ESTABLISHES all of this.

Clearly ALL SIGNS AND WONDERS belong to THE GOD who sent MOSES back into EGYPT. HE IS DOING SO FOR A PURPOSE.

ALL SIGNS AND WONDERS are allowed to occur. They tend to occur just AFTER a HARDING OF HEARTS has taken place. Again GOD PERSONALLY CLAIMS TO BE DIRECTING THIS ACT HIMSELF.

Now let everyone think about LAKELAND, PENSACOLA, and EVEN TORONTO.

All three have been a dividing factor among many who have shouted either YEA or NAY. Both are right, both are wrong. But they all have one thing in COMMON, all hold their opinion strongly. Whether it is to what degree or level they took themselves   of how they have acted on their position will be how they themselves  will be weighed and measured.

GOD’S ORIGINAL SIGNS AND WONDERS WERE THE TEN PLAGUES. IT IS FOUNDATIONAL in our belief systems. But none of us really comprehend it all. Which is why I am doing what I now do and I hope someone out there will receive as THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT DESIRES.

So now let me take this to the RED LETTERS in Mathew 24:24 

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if [it were] possible, they shall deceive the very elect.

It has been happening, and is now in full blossom.

And as in Exodus 7:3 something precedes signs and wonders which ultimately HARDENS MEN’S HEARTS. Actually two things, FALSE CHRISTS and FALSE PROPHETS. In Greek the term we translate as “false christs” is a single GREEK term  “pseudochristos”. We say today FALSE CHRISTS as individuals. Maybe…. but “christ” really simply means “anointed”. The real warning is of  “FALSE ANOINTINGS” which precedes  “false prophets”.

JESUS first warns us in

Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

Again, if you study the context of this verse and the entirety of Matthew chapter 7, you will see a conundrum created. Right at the start JESUS states: “Judge not, that ye be not judged.” This is a WAR CRY by one of the DIVISIONS that have been created by THE MOST HIGH and HIS SIGNS and WONDERS at Lakeland, Pensacola, Toronto, and so many other places. Only, if I might quote Winston Churchill, Matthew 7 “is a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma.” For after warning us of false prophets/ravening wolves, HE instructs us…

Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither [can] a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

We are told to “KNOW THEM”… awareness and being alert to the problems they cause is not JUDGING THEM PEOPLE. Sure you have made an evaluation of the bad fruit. You see it, smell it, and maybe even taste it before you throw it out.

So what do we do when we are faced with BAD FRUIT and it’s source? Some say we have to stand on the roof and shout it out. Some say we have to expose it and force everyone to see it. Some have placed accusations, formed indictments, presented evidence, made judgments, and are eager to EXECUTE A SENTENCE. Which is where verse 1 comes into everything dramatically.

As a good servant, we are to be beck and call to THE KING OF KINGS. As a good soldier, we do our duty and obey the ORDERS HE GIVES. That is all there really is. Very few who say they are Christians see any of this as simply as I place this before you. Now they have the rights to say and do as they choose. Which explains verses 21, 22, and 23….

Now this is just the beginning of a new journey. Basically I am taught as I go along. My orders are simple… “FOLLOW ORDERS”….

Until the next lesson….

TO GOD BE ALL GLORY…

Old Dog

Bob Neumann

Marion, NC

 

 

 

The Mystery Of Iniquity (Lakeland 2)

Bob Neumann, May 20, 2008

Seems like a strange title for anything, THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY.

One of the things that bothered me from the first time I heard of the “TORONTO BLESSING” until today is the painful cries of those who were “TOUCHED” in some way. Likewise, ministries that have come under scrutiny from news media or the Justice Department, that had dramatic falls in grace and rides to prison. People stand and watch dazed and confused baffled both in mind and spirit.

There are many questions that these people ask. They ask them with profound emotion, pain, and fear. I remember a story of an “evangelist” in the fifties and sixties that traveled across the country for years holding revivals. Very early in my walk I heard this story from a person I was fellowshipping with in a pentecostal church. It seems this “popular evangelist” had been exposed as a “closet alcoholic”. At the time I was more shocked at the repercussions among the local “brethren” than the sin of alcoholism. I actually knew many people who claimed to have gotten saved at one of his revivals. I was honestly shocked because I had never heard of the man or “his ministry”. What disturbed me was the flood of emotions that rose up. Many were grieved because, as they were interpreting the events, their own salvation came into question. Some were angry because they had gone to his revivals and felt “the spirit”.

So it began. Every time a ministry fell, was exposed, discredited, or slaughtered their followers this same avalanche of emotions would bury people in the wakes they threw up and left behind.

Confusion was always the first symptom. Then came doubt. Those that found salvation doubted it. Those who experienced healings, deliverances, and restorations were afraid… actually terrified in some cases. I actually saw people turn away from GOD in their turmoil of spirit. These people were hard to help, without direct intervention by THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT. The most troubling aspect was the bizarre division that has been growing for a long time.

On one side are THE DEFENDERS whose two war cries we all hear, “JUDGE NOT, LEST YEA BE JUDGED!!!” and “TOUCH NOT THE LORD’S ANOINTING!!!”. I know you have heard these BATTLE MANTRAS growing louder and louder. I remember years ago watching Paul Crouch, all emotional and seething, point a finger to the TV camera and literally spoke a curse upon “MEAN, RELIGIOUS SPIRITED, HERESY HUNTERS” who were attacking “god’s people”. What was most funny about his bad acting, phony zeal and emotion, but right then THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT triggered an old memory in my mind and spiritman. What I saw being replayed was the skit on MONTY PYTHON about THE SPANISH INQUISITION.

In away the other side does have people who would line up to start the fires around stakes. But those are the EXTREMESTS. Regrettably most of these THE INQUISITORS Attack everything out there that might be “unacceptable to whatever norm” they use as their “litmus test”. Most of these people deny the GIFTS OF THE SPIRIT across the board. Many will tell you “tongue talking” is of THE DEVIL. Like wise any healing and miracle that might occur is inspected and picked over. Usually labeled “THE DEVIL DID IT” when they are done.

Even atheist and agnostic skeptics give a more honest evaluation of healings and miracles. Some might be labeled as “frauds”, others as “uncertain”, and a few as just plain “unexplainable.”

So over the years, AMERICA has seen wave after wave of the PENTACOSTAL/ CHRISMATIC/ THIRD DAY/ PROPHETIC movements claiming healings, salvations, deliverances, miracles, restorations and all kinds of “manifestations” which are questioned and attacked intermittently.

What all I see are those lambs and sheep in confusion and doubt wondering whether a MOST HOLY GOD can cohabit with THE DEMONIC? Can the SANCTIFIED coexist with the defiled?

This is not a new issue to me. Ever time a fissure event occurs out there in AMERCA and the CHURCH I will get emails and phone calls about the latest confrontation. But this Lakeland event has set new records for the sheer numbers of people reaching out, calling for help that they can not find elsewhere.

As I have so often do, my first question to THE MOST HOLY SPIRT was a little “whiney”. “Why me, LORD?”. Now I waited over 2 weeks just deleting posts that THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT did not pull me to. Ever day I got more and more posts asking “what do you think?”, “what do you feel?”. Then one morning THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT pointed and I literally jumped into this mess.

So in prayer and meditation as I was being instructed in the facets about “SIGNS AND WONDERS” My LORD AND KING told me it was THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY? My immediate thought was “how does that fit?”. So here it all comes together….

2 Th 2:7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth [will let], until he be taken out of the way.

This verse is in a long and intense portion of scripture that TALKS about THE END TIMES. (Verses 8 on down will be addressed in future teachings. ABBA personally told me it was on my to do list) But we are told that this MYSTERY OF INIQUITY was already “in force” back when Paul was writing.

My first question was just how this mystery affects us today, and I was told to look at all these posts I had been getting. All that THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT wanted me to focus on was the pain, fear, and confusion that these people were being attacked with. And I was told to return to Matthew 7 where I had previously ended.

Mat 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?

Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Now verse 23 fills me with utter dread each time I read it. But then I am reminded “there, but by the grace of GOD, go I”.

First point NO ONE ENTERS THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN WHO IS NOT DOING ABBA’S WILL. No one can argue that point. Selah and amen.

Second point MANY WILL GET CAUGHT IN THEIR SELF DECEPTION.

Third point THE KING JUDGES AND EXECUTES THAT JUDGEMENT…. THOSE WHOSE “DEFENSE” was “doing many wonderful works, many prophesies, casting out many demons”. JESUS DECLARES THEIR CRIME! “I NEVER KNEW YOU, ALL YOU WORKERS OF INIQUITY”.

Iniquity is a nasty thing. In HEBREW it is perversity, depravity. In the Greek it goes a little farther, the condition of without law, contempt and violation of law, wickedness. A long time ago in MIAMI an ORTHADOX REBBE explained to me that iniquity is not a sin but a nature. When someone knowingly prefers to do what is evil and not good. Actually prefers to do things for the sake of wickedness.

Looking at their crimes, and WHAT KING JESUS DECLARES I fail to see where HE denies their claims. Did they really prophesy, cast out demons, and perform many wonderful works? KING JESUS seems to ignore it, probably because they were not significant to HIM. This is where I got caught into circular argument that was kindly halted by THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT and pointed out of chapter 7 to 25. There he was, the shmuck given the one talent.

Now the WHOLE PARABLE OF THE TALENTS follows Matthew 24. So we are living it out right now, so to speak. And we all know the story…. or do we?

Mat 25:24 Then he which had received the one talent came and said, Lord, I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed:

Mat 25:25 And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, [there] thou hast [that is] thine.

Mat 25:26 His lord answered and said unto him, [Thou] wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:

Mat 25:27 Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers, and [then] at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.

Maybe because THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT had it PLAYED OUT before me, with me, I can now understand it more clearly.

THE LORD over the three servants returns, unexpected, and asks for his accounts to be done. The first two servants are happy to see their LORD… forget happy, overjoyed! But then came the other guy, trembling, knees shaking… and out it comes… a declaration and an excuse.

The DECLARATION: I knew thee that thou art an hard man, reaping where thou hast not sown, and gathering where thou hast not strawed…. The EXCUSE: And I was afraid, and went and hid thy talent in the earth: lo, [there] thou hast [that is] thine. In other words…. I did not loose it!.

For years I have wondered at the response THE LORD GAVE… [Thou] wicked and slothful servant, thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not, and gather where I have not strawed:

Now knowing THE SON and seeing HIM as the GREAT AND TERRIBLE GOD OF VALOR WHO MAKES WAR IN RIGHTIOUSNESS….i realize I missed something here. In HIS RESPONSE, LORD JESUS ignores the wicked servant’s evaluation of THE LORD as a HARD MAN. BUT HE AGREES with the assessment of HIS REAPING AND GATHERING. “HARD” alludes to THE LORD’S demeanor and personality. It is why “the wicked servant” was duly afraid. My first impression looking at this “real” view of things was that I could not blame the dude.

Which is when THE LORD, my KING and MASTER turned to me and asked, “ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT, DOG?”. HE turned and stepped away from me and turned back to face me. And it began….

I saw my SHEPHERD who I adore and love with all my being. Then there was THE CARPENTER, my REBBE, my TEACHER, my FRIEND. Suddenly there stood MY CAPTAIN, THE GREAT MASTER OF ALL WARFARE… Then there was my KING standing in HIS GLORY, HE SMILLED AT ME AND BEGAN A SLOW 360 to show me his hinder parts (private joke)…. and there was THE BRIDEGROOM. I so wanted to run over to HIM, but my feet would not move… And THERE WAS THE LAMB…. and I went to my knees trembling, once again.

I felt a HAND on my shoulder pulling me to my feet. As I stood I saw “the wicked servant” over to the side awaiting JUDGMENT. But in front of me again stood my KING, and HE ASKED, “AM I A HARD MAN, DOG?”.

What came through my mind was “why is that dude so scared?”.

“AND THAT DOG, is THE MYSTERY.”

And THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT immediately brought to my mind, heart, spirit…

Come unto me, all [ye] that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. For my yoke [is] easy, and my burden is light.

AND I REMEMBERED! That is why I LOVE HIM, YEARN to SERVE HIM, KNOW UTTERLY THAT I WILL LIVE, DIE, AND LIVE AGAIN…. FOR HIM!

“YOU CAME TO HIM, MY SON, ACCEPTED MY REST. WHEN YOU WERE ABLE YOU GLADLY ALLOWED THE YOKE TO BE PLACED AND HAVE BEEN LEARNING EVER SENSE.”.

I was hearing ABBA’S VOICE and HIS FRAGRANCE AND HIS PEACE SURROUNDED ME.

“YOU WEAR MY COLLAR AS A DOG FOR THE SHEPHERD. YOU WEAR THE TORQ AND THE LIVERY OF A SERVANT IN MY HOUSE. SO DID HE”.

At that point I turned towards the wicked servant still moaning and groaning. It was then the entirety of it all came together. Over there was not just a servant, but a steward. He had been given a talent. He was expected to put himself to use working to increase that very substantial investment for THE LORD. Now all three servants had funds to invest with. All three lived in THE LORD’S HOUSE, ATE AT HIS TABLE AND WORE HIS TORQ AND LIVERY. Anyone who saw them, did business with them, knew they were dealing with THE LORD AND KING. So the real problem was here is a person who has lived and enjoyed all the KINGS protection, favor, and benefits… but did nothing for THE KINGDOM.

And suddenly I stood before and above multitudes shouting “LORD, LORD..”. They can not enter the KINGDOM OF HEAVEN. They did not do ABBA’S WILL. SURE!, It does not tell us that they were called to some form of ministry. Many may have, but somewhere along the line, ABBA’S ORDERS and DIRECTIONS were placed aside, ignored, “improved on”, whatever…. Some may have figured it as a way to make a dollar. Some were following into the family business. (this is the base for another teaching down the line…)

Yes, they may have done all kinds of “stuff”. All that is important is that GOD IS SOVEREIGN.

Many ministries claim they have done 100’s of salvations, or healings, or deliverances… THE CLAIM what only THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT CAN DO. SO THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT DOES…. AND THE LORD KING HARVESTS, REAPS, TAKES WHAT WAS/ IS/ WILL ALWAYS BE HIS.

THE MYSTERY OF INIQUITY is that in spite of SIN and INIQUITY defiling people and their works, ABBA FATHER’S WILL PREVAILS. THE HARVEST IS HIS.

And then THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT brought down to the BOOK of HEBREWS.

Hbr 6:4 For [it is] impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,

Hbr 6:5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,

Hbr 6:6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put [him] to an open shame.

Many calling out “LORD, LORD” had once been “enlightened”. Had “tasted of the heavenly gift”. PARTAKERS of/with THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT. TASTED THE GOODNESS OF GOD… had fallen away.

This is not “sin”. We all sin. We all stumble and fall on our face. But we repent and are restored. This falling away is more than sin. And the two words echoing in my spiritman are INIQUITY and TREASON.

And I come to an end.

So all of you confused, frustrated, fearful of the events in Lakeland and in Pensacola and Toronto before it: turn to GOD. Forget about the journey to today and hold on to THE SAVIOUR’S HAND. Keep LISTENING TO and FOLLOWING THE GOOD SHEPHERD. “KNOW” HIM… begin or expand whatever relationship you have. Let THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT fill and use you. Enjoy the new levels of intimacy with THE GREAT AND MIGHTY GOD who loves each and every one of us.

The CIRCUS in LAKELAND is continuing. More and more flock there, for whatever purpose or reason.

If anyone is offended by my calling it a circus/carnival…. I was sent to LAKELAND in 1995 to witness the PRINCIPALITY. In 1998 it was written on a “tablet” and sent out…. established by THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WPA-Prophetic-Accumulations/message/33

GREAT AND TERRIBLE is our MIGHTY KING

Selah

Olddog

Bob Neumann

Marion, NC

 

 

 

Charisma Post - Serpent Seed (Lakeland #3)

Bob Neumann, 21 May 2008

This is a post i placed on the Charisma Magazine Discussion site. Not a forum i ever expected to be on. But i pass it on for concideration.
Bob Neumann

This is to David who said:

> So the question is, since we know that this teaching is heresy and since Todd claims to have learned it from his angels and his visit to Heaven, it begs the question:
> 1. Is Todd a lunatic? He actually believes he's experienced this and it never really happened.
> 2. Is Todd a liar? He made it all up and is trying to fool people.
> 3. Is Todd being deceived by angels of light (demons)?

May i propose a different possibility. Take it from scripture,maybe it will make sense.

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:
Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

This David, is the VERY FIRST(!!!!) PROPHETIC DECLARATION in all of scripture. For now we must deal with VERSE 15. There well be "EMNITY" between THE SNAKE and THE WOMAN. Many teach the woman as ISRAEL and others say THE CHURCH. Many teach THE SEED of THE WOMAN is IMMANUEL...GOD WITH US...MESSIAH...THE LAMB OF GOD. I agree with this with all my being.

Have you ever heard anyone teach/preach on THE SEED OF THE SERPENT? Now if THE SEED OF THE WOMAN is JESUS and HIS BRIDE, notice i did not say "church"(?), and HIS BRIDE are the SAINTS, those who have seperated from the world unto THE SERVICE OF GOD. We have to accept the idea of THE SEED OF THE SERPENT as something more than a metaphor or some allegory everyone ignores.

The last two attempts to post to this group vanished. i hope this one will not.

Selah
olddog

 

 

 

Serpent Seed (Lakeland #4)

Bob Neumann, May 24, 2008

Gen 3:14 And the LORD God said unto the serpent, Because thou hast done this, thou [art] cursed above all cattle, and above every beast of the field; upon thy belly shalt thou go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of thy life:

Gen 3:15 And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

“And THE LORD GOD said unto…”. This simple statement begins the FIRST PROPHETIC UTTERANCE in all of SCRIPTURE. No man is saying it. THE LORD GOD is just beginning the GREAT JUDGMENT that removed MANKIND from THE GARDEN. All that really is important are these two verses. For THE SERVANTS OF GOD, it is where we see THE ORIGIN of this FINAL BATTLE we now have entered.

“And I will put EMNITY between thee and the woman” has long been many as an area of DEBATE to many. Most argue about just who “the woman” could be. When they waste their time there, few notice the term “EMNITY.” In HEBREW it is spelled “EYBAH”, but pronounced “A BA”. It appears only 5 times in all of THE OLD TESTEMENT. Beginning here in Gen 3:15 and ending in Ezekiel 35:6…

Eze 35:5 Because thou hast had a perpetual hatred, and hast shed [the blood of] the children of Israel by the force of the sword in the time of their calamity, in the time [that their] iniquity [had] an end:

Eze 35:6 Therefore, [as] I live, saith the Lord GOD, I will prepare thee unto blood, and blood shall pursue thee: sith thou hast not hated blood, even blood shall pursue thee.

There are two interesting aspects of this scripture passage. First is that in the ORIGINAL HEBREW what we read as “Because thou hast had a PERPETUAL HATRED” comes from two HEBREW TERMS, “OLAM EYBAH”. The second is just WHO GOD is actually addressing. Ezekiel 35:2 tells us it is “mount SEIR”. Biblical “scholars” will tell you it is referring to Esau, the Edomites and such. Now Rabbinical SOURCES will tell you that MOUNT SEIR is also a SPIRITUAL REFERANCE. In the natural by the TIME Ezekiel was told to PROPHESY AGAINST “MOUNT SEIR”, the original descendants of Esau and of Lot were basically GONE. To many REBBES, MOUNT SEIR was like the PRINCE OF TYRUS from Ezekiel 28.

So Gen 3:14 and Ez 35 are talking about one entity. Now go back and reread Gen 3:15 and see where GOD SAYS “I WILL PUT EMNITY BETWEEN….”, and “between thy seed and the womans…”

How many of you have heard any expansive teachings about what I have been addressing for years, THE SEED OF THE SERPENT?

THE MODERN CHURCH does not address it because many are part of it. Over the last 20+ years how many of you have heard people who claim to be “SATANISTS” of having INFILTRATED their own in to present day churches? Some NEW AGERS and ALTERNATE RELIGION types make that same claim, but only on local levels. Most of the “church” types disregard any and all of this by using numerous explanations, all of which is meant to calm the sheep, and allow more wolves to enter into many folds.

If one would look at all of this from a “distance”, one could say that all of this could be a superb strategy as seen from the aspects of SUN TZU’S classic treatise, “THE ART OF WAR”. Now there is a war BEING WAGED against THE SAINTS, the church, and the whole world by one FOE. It has been waged both overtly and covertly. As long as “the church” ignores it, the FOE is winning.

This war has been waged for 6000 years. All of GOD’S CREATION is involved because it is GOD who really is the TARGET. But you can not really fight OMNIPOTENCE and WIN. But you have to be sane to accept THE TRUTH.

All it comes down to is continuous WAR between THE SERPENT and “it’s seed”, and THE SEED OF THE WOMAN, The MESSIAH. Gen 3:15 is also the very 1st MESSIANIC PROPHESY. So being ESTABLISHED BY GOD’S DECLARATION, THE SERPENT has “SEED”.

If we accept the fact that THE SERPENT is a created being, we also must accept that THE SERPENT can not CREATE. He can mimic, copy, and counterfeit. Now you have to decide exactly what could he counterfeit. The answer is surprisingly simple. The SERPENT establishes a means where humans decide to serve/worship him, and not GOD. He does this for them in his power and authority that mimics WHAT THE SAINTS WERE SUPPOSED TO BE.

All it is really is a mirror image of what GOD HAD PLANNED ALL ALONG. Consider …But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way... The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy… And that because of false brethren unawares brought in, who came in privily to spy out our liberty….. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

The INFITRATION and SUBBORNING of “the church”, is but one of many strategies in play. But in doing so THE SERPENT, THE GREAT DRAGON, negates the only possible threat to HIS PLANS. That is the EMERGENCE of what has yet to be seen. Servants, EQUIPED and EMPOWERED for 3 ½ years of war.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

At this point, in amerika, maybe 10% of the church goers actually believe there is an ENEMY. They basically have thrown out believing in anything scriptural. They freely accept any and all lies and deceptions that either float there way, or float their boats. Lies and deceptions are much easier to swallow if they satisfy cravings and desires. Especially those “cravings and desires” one might prefer to keep secret for whatever reason.

That is how it was done.

THE OLD SERPENT, THE GREAT DRAGON, THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD controls THE GLOBAL MEDIA, THE GLOBAL ECONOMY, and is presently ready to consolidate a GLOBAL GOVERNMENT.

He has done all this because he has humans who knowingly serve him. They are in places of power. They are in the streets. They are in every walk of life and level of influence. Some directly implement the SCHEMES and PLOTS of darkness. Some hold the reigns of control over those who have been deceived.

THE SERPENT provided THE LEAVEN, and it has taken over all the LOAF.

Remember that JESUS said “Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant is not greater than his lord; neither he that is sent greater than he that sent him.” In the short time ahead, those who serve, who move and act out of obedience need have no fear of the things that will happen. All that will happen has been placed before you. Many pick and choose what they believe as if they are sitting at a Chinese restaurant. Whatever your desires are will affect your choices. One from column A, three from column B, and you search the “a la carte” for appetizers that you are comfortable with.

This is what the apostate church tells you that you can do because you are “saved”. They tell you that you are “the head and not the tail”. That you are to be continuously blessed in all things. They tell you all kinds of things that JESUS failed to tell us.

Much of what HE DID SAY, they have passively ignored and taught “interesting things”. Because they play their own “pick and choose” game, amerika has embraced a strange religion which they have been taking to the world and called it THE GOSPEL. It is not THE GOOD NEWS that JESUS came to proclaim and empower. There are many who have actually believed that what has been shaped by themselves is a “better gospel”.

Many of these humans are merely deceived and going “along with” what they see around them that they would call “SUCCESSFUL”. They see those around them they have judged as successful and try hard to copy what they see. Many other humans jumped on this WAVE because they see opportunities for themselves. They see money flowing in and staying and decide they can get into a “good thing”, and take a “little piece of the action”. Then there are humans who chose to serve THE SERPENT. Who actively support the schemes and plots of THE ENEMY because of the rewards they are given Wealth, power, prestige, and self-gratification of fleshly needs give them incentive to produce On behalf of DARKNESS. But then there are SERPENT SEED that are “in the FAMILY BUSINESS”. They are descendants of SERPENT SEED. They serve for their own reasons. They obey because they also are very aware that there is a “cost in FAILURE”. Call it a diabolic incentive plan.

They are well aware that they are SERVANTS and SOLDIERS OF DARKNESS.  They have no misconceptions of what is actually going on. They are well connected among themselves. They are well entrenched in their specific areas of action. They are deeply embedded in all the key areas of POWER.

GOVERNMENT, MILITARY, GLOBAL BANKING, EDUCATION, INTERNATIONAL CORPORATIONS, ALL AREAS OF MEDIA, RELIGIONS.

AND THEY ARE BEING DIRECTED BY THOSE WHO UNDERSTAND THEIR GOALS AND THEIR OPPOSITION. BECAUSE THEY BEGAN THIS WAR AT THE VERY BEGINNING, IN HEAVEN FOLLOWING THE CHERUB WHO ATTEMPTED TO OVERTHROW GOD’S THRONE.

In the BOOK of Daniel we are told that this war will break out of the shadows. That for  3 ½ years they would prevail against the saints of GOD. At that point GOD STEPS IN. And that “the saints, and the people of the saints” would be “GIVEN” the KINGDOM.

John tells us

1 Jo 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 

1 Jo 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:

1 Jo 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that [spirit] of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

1 Jo 4:4 Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.

1 Jo 4:5 They are of the world: therefore speak they of the world, and the world heareth them.

1 Jo 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

1 Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God.

1 Jo 4:8 He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

Throughout all of history ALMIGHTY GOD has had servants and stewards. All were called, but they were the ones chosen. They served. They were sent. They were poured out. Many were alone, many in small groups, but they ALL HAD THE WAY, THE TRUTH and THE LIFE. It was enough for them.

Many today have been shown pieces of what will come. Many have given what they were given to all who they could reach. Throughout the world THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT IS BREATHING LIFE into all who HUNGER and THIRST. These who are dead to themselves are FULLY ALIVE IN CHRIST. They minister to the brethren using the GIFTS ABBA desires to give ALL HIS CHIDREN.

You can not “fake out” THE LIVING GOD. You can not serve anything BUT THE MOST HOLY GOD.

THE SEED OF THE SERPENT are like the CHURCH, alive on EARTH. THE SEED OF THE SERPENT are EMPOWERED and DIRECTED by THE SERPENT. THE SAINTS are EMPOWERED and DIRECTED by THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT.

So what is there to fear…

Selah

Old dog

 

 

 

Charisma Response To "David" (Lakeland #5)

Bob Neumann, 5/2008

A response to David who wrote to IHL,

What's the difference between discernment and judging? If I say the Lord told me something is demonic and we need to avoid it, is that exercising discernment or judgement? Judgement refers to our eternal destiny, we're told not to condemn, which no one here had. Discernment means recognize what is of God and what is of man or the devil. Why would God give the gift of discerning of spirits if we weren't to use it to decide what is and is not of the devil? And once we know, we use it to proclaim to those such as yourself who obviously don't have that gifting, a warning so you can exercise wisdom by avoiding something dangerous and demonic. That is not judgement as Scripture refers to it. It's discernment and wisdom. As Paul would advise, have nothing to do with it.

Well said David. Whenever we "sense" wrongness, all we are doing is acknowledge that we have used one of our senses, DISCERNMENT. Then we take the time to "study" the fruit we have encountered. Does it smell strange or look weird? If so we make a "personal judgment". All this is really is a decision to "not eat" it. The GIFT of Discernment is an ability, TALENT, one practices with and improves it.

As you say we "exercise" each and every GIFT ABBA GIVES for the benefit of the SHEEP. Seeing that there is a horrendous lack of all the GIFTS, especiallythose in positions of promenance, someone whould shout when danger aproaches. So i ask you David, what do you do when that danger is suddenly all around you? When men most sheep go to for assistance, defend and support what THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT had directed to evaluate and give warning about?

That is my FIRST QUESTION.
selah
olddog

 

 

 

Final Response (Lakeland #6)

Bob Neumann 5/2008

Final THOUGHTS.

"LAKELAND" is a prophetic fulfillment of numerous NEW TESTEMENT SCRIPTURES. Anyone can LOOK and SEARCH for themselves. Lakeland is an immense harvest which has gained global awareness through modern media. Several things are occuring. First part of the harvest is always cutting down what is in the field.

Rev 14:14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud [one] sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

Rev 14:15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

So the cutting has started which means

Mat 13:37 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; Mat 13:38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked [one]; Mat 13:39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

ANGELS…

Job 1:6 Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them.

In HEBREW "the sons", "benam" is an interesting term in an interesting scripture.

RIGHT NOW THE FIELD IS BEING HARVESTED.

So ALMIGHTY GOD SENT FALLEN ANGELS to kick start TODD BENTLY'S MINISTRY. He and many others saw "ANGELS OF LIGHT" and ran with it, boasting about it. So now we have THE DOG AND PONY SHOW at the LAKELAND CIRCUS. Both GOD warned the servants of 10 years ago. I know because i was there. I bet this will not be posted.

www.etpv.org/1998/1thun.html www.etpv.org/1998/2thunder.html (these dont work, try http://www.mikkojokitalo.fi/438271995)

selah
olddog

 

 

 

Accuser Of The Brethren (Lakeland #7)

Bob Neumann, 5/2008

THE ACCUSER OF THE BRETHERN

Too often there is a place in time where TRUTH is put aside and replaced. Sometimes it is replaced by a planned DIVERSION. Then there are times where TRUTH is lost among the SMOKE and MIRRORS placed to DISTRACT anyone looking for IT. Now there are times THE FULL TRUTH is beyond what is comfortable for many.

I just completed SERPENT SEED. The HUMANS who have chosen to serve DARKNESS/CHAOS. They SERVE THE SERPENT, THE GREAT DRAGON, THE KING OF TYRUS, THE KING OF BAYLON, LUCIFER, SON OF THE MORNING.

On the other hand, in the oldest BOOK of the BIBLE, JOB, GOD calls out to one of the sons of GOD by this NAME…SATAN. More correctly in HEBREW it is HA'SATAN. Now ADONAI ELOHIM is not calling one of the created beings by their own name. What GOD uses is really a title. HA'SATAN literally means "ADVERSARY". Now remember just before JUDAS showed up to kiss JESUS, JESUS had some words for Simon Peter. THE ADVERSARY has made a formal petition unto THE THRONE. Maybe Simon Peter was in the argument of who was top dog, I do not know. GOD DID. And suddenly JESUS tells Simon Peter was about to be sifted, and would deny JESUS.

Dr STRONG is far more expansive for the GREEK SATANOS than he was for the HEBREW SATAN. It is important to look at exactly what he says "SATAN" means.
1) adversary (one who opposes another in purpose or act), the name given to
a) the prince of evil spirits, the inveterate adversary of God and Christ
1) he incites apostasy from God and to sin
2) circumventing men by his wiles
3) the worshippers of idols are said to be under his control
4) by his demons he is able to take possession of men and inflict them with diseases
5) by God's assistance he is overcome
6) on Christ's return from heaven he will be bound with chains for a thousand years, but when the thousand years are finished he will walk the earth in yet greater power, but shortly after will be given over to eternal punishment
b) a Satan-like man

When I read this I think about the old Clintwood Spaghetti Westerns about the MAN WITH NO NAME. Many will say it is "the devil", the personification of all that is evil. Many will say whatever they please.

"SATAN" may only be a term for whatever tool THE MOST HIGH GOD uses to apply "pressure" to men.

According to "first mention", SATAN shows up in the time of DAVID.

1 Ch 21:1 And Satan stood up against Israel, and provoked David to number Israel. Now to many who read it, this comes out of nowhere. SATAN is "tempting" DAVID but they do not know why. If so, keep reading.
1 Ch 21:3 And Joab answered, The LORD make his people an hundred times so many more as they [be]: but, my lord the king, [are] they not all my lord's servants? why then doth my lord require this thing? why will he be a cause of trespass to Israel?

Now JOAB knew DAVID'S order somehow was in conflict with something GOD SAID. He spoke up and was ignored. And then a prophet named GAD comes into the picture.

So SATAN/THE SERPENT tempts people to do what GOD TELLS them not to do. Let's take it a final step.

Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

ALOUD HEAVENLY VOICE refers to OLD SERPENT/THE DEVIL/SATAN as "the accuser of our brethren". So what I see HA'SATAN as a PROSECUTING ATTORNEY Before GOD, as JESUS intercedes. So SATAN is a term for the lowest possible form of life imaginable….a lawyer.

GOD even has use at this stage of time so SATAN walks "to and fro" across this earth today.

One of the scriptures that just never made sense to me was Rev 20.
Rev 20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
Rev 20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
Rev 20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
<<<<BIG SNIP HERE>>>>
Rev 20:7 And when the thousand years are expired, Satan shall be loosed out of his prison,
Rev 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom [is] as the sand of the sea.
Rev 20:9 And they went up on the breadth of the earth, and compassed the camp of the saints about, and the beloved city: and fire came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
Rev 20:10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet [are], and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever..

SO THE MOST HIGH GOD PUT ONE OF HIS TOOLS AWAY, IN A PLACE "SET APPART".KNOWING THAT HE WOULD HAVE A USE OR THAT TOOL, JUST ONE MORE TIME.

NOW THAT IS HEAVY.

But there is more to this whole thing

Rev 12:7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
Rev 12:8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Let me tell you all a little story…ONCE UPON A TIME….GOD CREATED THE "UNIVERSE". And every thing was just plain perfect. But GOD did something interesting. HE GAVE HIS created beings that served HIM something called "THE FREEDOM OF CHOICE." ((((For all scholars out there, that is the best explanation I have been able to come with after over 20 years studying this.))))

Let's skip all the hypotheticals and go straight at it.

Rev 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.
Rev 12:4 And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

So one CHERUB, attempted to depose ALMIGHTY GOD. In his lies and schemes he got 1/3rd of all the CREATED BEINGS to side with HIM. Personally this has always bobbled my mind. Just how can even HALLEL, a CHERUB who dwelt at THE THRONE OF GOD, CREATED TO BE AN INSTRUMENT OF WORSHIP, become prideful? Then how could he subvert other angels to deny A HOLY GOD and back him?

And THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT told me to put it aside. Until I was ready. I still am not quite ready.

So if one out of three angels that GOD CREATED fell for his lies and promises, what exactly can flawed humanity have to withstand this. THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT.

Eph 6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord, and in the power of his might.
Eph 6:11 Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil.
Eph 6:12 For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high [places].

Our STRENGTH is in THE LORD. ABBA gave us THE GIFTS OF THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT. THE SON, our GLORIOUS KING gave us THE WHOLE ARMOR.

Eph 6:13 Wherefore take unto you the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand.

Paul continues:

Eph 6:18 Praying always with all prayer and supplication in the Spirit, and watching thereunto with all perseverance and supplication for all saints;
Eph 6:19 And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel,
Eph 6:20 For which I am an ambassador in bonds: that therein I may speak boldly, as I ought to speak.

No where do I read of "SNEAKING INTO THE ENEMY'S CAMP", "STOMPING ON DEMON HEADS", "HUNTING FOR UNCLEAN SPIRITS" to cast them out.

What I do read in Eph 6 are 2 "STAND(S)", and 1 "withstand".

You can meditate on the number of ANGELS that followed SATAN in his folly. Just expect headaches and acid reflux. Here NUMBERS do not matter. THE ENEMY OF OUR SOULS is, as JESUS said, THE PRINCE OF THIS WORLD. Under him are "PRINCIPALITIES". Fallen angels with pieces of geography they are accountable for. Under him are "POWERS". Fallen angels in charge of specific things that go "beyond" Land marks and borders.

Then there are SPIRITUAL WICKEDNESS IN HIGH PLACES. Fallen angels that pull the strings for groups like "SECRET SOCIETIES", "POLITICAL LEADERS", "CEO'S OF CORPORATIONS", "BANKS", etc, etc. Etc.

These fallen angels empower and direct their human minions we know/call THE SEED OF THE SERPENT.

To resist what is coming using human strength, wisdom, cunning seems cute for books and movies. Personally I enjoy INDIANA JONES, TOM CLANCY and the LIKE.

But personally, I have THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT, THE LOGOS and THE RHEMA. AND THE LAMB WHO IS WORTHY TO TRED THE WINEPRESS OF THE WRATH OF GOD ALMIGHTY,

How will you "STAND"?
Selah
olddog

 

 

 

AT THE CIRCUS (Lakeland #8)

Bob Neumann, 5/2008

AT THE CIRCUS

Now it all began at IGNITED CHURCH on April 2nd and is packing them for both Matinee and Evening performances 7 days a week. They have moved it several times for larger seating capacity. Then they crossed over onto GOD-TV and UTUBE. Now if you listen to the HYPE that people like Stephen Strader and others are throwing out, you could easily believe that this is THE GREAT AWAKENING or any other label they can slap on it. According to their spin masters it is FRONT PAGE if you GOOGLE GOD-TV. If you think begging for people to donate $70/minute to pay for the air time GOD-TV is using is how GOD moves.

That is what happens if you just type in single words on GOOGLE. Now if you are real energetic go to UTUBE and see what LAKELAND pops up. After being grossly under whelmed I went for THE BIG ENCHALADA. Punched in TODD BENTLY to see the millions of HITS on his UPLOADS, the video of accounts of what is actually happening. What I actually found is distressing. Not because of what I watched, because I did not waste time watching the show. What distressed me was the lack of hits that have been made.

The HYPE is that people are flocking to LAKELAND to PARTAKE of this GREAT MOVE. Then they make claim that millions stare at GOD-TV daily, and getting into the flow, at least vicariously. That UTUBE is being inundated with hits to see IT over and over.

Now in spite of the HYPE, Todd Bently stuff has not hit the Featured Videos status. According to UTUBE, one of Todd’s hottest pieces has had 87,885 hits. It lasts all of 1 minute and 14 seconds. Now it has sat on UTUBE a year and has had all of 274 comments. Another hottie is a video entitled ENCOUNTERS WITH ANGELS and has had 80,549 hits. It lasts a whole 9+ minutes. Now it has only been on UTUBE for 10 months.

You may have noticed I have made no attempt to comment on the actual content of any of these videos. It is hard to get beyond the lies less noticed. Even looking at the comments and prophetic words that have been made over the past few weeks it is difficult to get beyond the EMOTIONS that AGENDAS.

Who really needs TRUTH if you have an AX TO GRIND, or a VESTED INTEREST? What I keep running into everywhere I turn, are the numerous defenders of the LAKELAND CIRCUS, no matter what happens. Now those who have made it their duty to expose the REVIVAL as THE CIRCUS it truly is have no more credibility then THE DEFENDERS. All I really see is a growing separation between two groups leading their troops into battle carrying THE CROSS. This was first done by EMPEROR CONSTINTINE. So both sides see their actions supported by this one historic event.

Let me start with THE DEFENDERS. Foremost and loudest is of course Stephen Strader. THE CIRCUS is really a family business. Now I was sent to see a performance when the Strader Family was at their peak. It was October 31st, 1995. I was told by THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT less than 24 hours before THE BIG SHOW to be there. So on a rainy, gloomy night almost 13 years ago I was directed to one CARPENTER’S HOME CHURCH in Lakeland. The main liner was RODNEY HOWARD BROWN. I caught the act, from beginning to end. What I heard and saw in the natural had two overwhelming aspects. It was slick and it was unscriptural. In the realm of THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT I had just one emotional awareness that I have never forgotten. I was scared.

For years I have DISCERNED the voice of GOD. During that time I learned to discern Other spirits. Lying spirits, foul spirits and spirits of infirmity and other foot soldiers in THE ARMY OF DARKNESS. In time the CAPTAIN OF THE HOSTS OF HEAVEN taught me how to see and evaluate the midlevel management behind these individual spirits. So when I went to LAKELAND to ATTEND THE CIRCUS I had been familiar with both principalities and powers.

After Rodney and Troops had done their THING, I was sent into the night to travel throughout Central Florida. In those short hours I was shown the powers and principalities that ruled. I was also introduced to the PRINCE over the entire South East United States, the Caribbean Sea, and The Gulf of Mexico. He is in LAKELAND. Just call it a very intense learning opportunity. So I filed it away until THE APPOINTED TIME CAME AROUND. IT HAS.

Now this all started with Stephen Strader and IGNITE CHURCH that is in LAKELAND, housed in a refurbished SCOTTIE’S LUMBER building. Now Stephen is not new to the BIG SHOW. His father and family ran 8,000 seat CARPENTER’S HOME CHURCH. They introduced Rodney Howard-Browne to central Florida and Christian TV. Now Rodney arrives in AMERICA in ORLANDO in 1989. Supposedly with $300 to his name, claims his autobiography.

In 1995 he was finishing his TRIUMPHANT return to LAKELAND. In January 1994 one of his adherents, Randy Clark was invited by John Arnott, senior pastor of the Airport Vineyard Church because of his ties to Rodney Howard-Browne. Low and behold THE TORANTO BLESSING began.

A year later the Brownsville Outpouring began when Steve Hill was invited by Pastor John Kilpatrick to speak at Brownsville Assembly of God in Pensacola, Florida on Father's Day.

All of this that we see today began only 15-16 years ago. LAKELAND is the culmination. Todd Bently is all of 32 years of age and claims to have been saved at age 18. That places it 14 years ago. Shortly after his salvation he finds himself interacting with the PROPHETIC ACTIVITY in Kansas City.

If you try to just GOOGLE info on THE KANSAS CITY PROPHETS the info is very sketchy. Recent events by these same people just confuses the issue. But the beginning seems to be in one Mike BICKEL who in 1982 on a trip to Egypt recounts hearing a VOICE telling him to "raise up a work that will touch the ends of the earth". Now when I first read this I too heard a VOICE say DEJAH VU ALL OVER AGAIN!. At least I recognized THE VOICE OF THE LAMB OF GOD. So I kept looking. Beginning in 1982 an interesting string of events began, intertwining and which now culminate in THE LAKELAND SHOW.

Involved are numerous ministries and organizations which dominate the charismatic, pentacostal, prophetic and apostolic activities in AMERIKA and much of the FREE WORLD. Strangely, they have ties that go back and back and back. The most obvious are Todd’s friendly angelic supporters, who had earlier been involved with one Bob JONES. I remember when Rick Joyner PUT Bob under wraps because of certain sins that people noticed. Which seems to be about the time these angels jumped BOB’S ship and landed with Todd.

Now Bob Jones said his angels were earlier with William Brahnam. Where they were before old William is just too far back for GOOGLE and WIKOPEDIA to have the information.

So today it is TODD BENTLY and THE FRESH FIRE MINISTRIES performing at LAKELAND LINDER REGIONAL AIRPORT May 26-INDEFINATELY! Only
Until June 18-21 when they are advertising their HEALING SIGNS AND WONDERS show in CONCORD, NORTH CAROLINA.

Now if THE NUMBERS and THE MONEY are as good as they HYPE, maybe Concord and North Carolina may be spared. Maybe their CIRCUS will just keep going on and on and on and their DOG AND PONY SHOW will stay there and not move on.

Many people may be concerned with this statement. Basically I am taking the position that of those 20,000 who are going to service after service is an inflated number. Also is the fact that many of those who do attend do so at every service. People addicted to feelings and holy ghost goose bumps. They are the main camp followers for the TODD BENTLY CIRCUS.

So there are FOUR camps out there. First is that of THE CIRCUS is GOD’S GREAT END TIME REVIVAL. GOD’S SHOW. Second is that of the DEMON HUNTERS who say all the
hype and hoopla are empowered by DEMONIC POWERS. Maybe 90% of those actually interested in what is happening fall into one or other camps. Now the Third camp is the largest. It may be comprised of 75% of the UNITED STATES who could not care less. Included in this group are the LIBERAL HUMANIST CHURCH who at best see it as a COSMIC JOKE. Along side them is the average EVANGELICAL FUNDAMENTALIST CONSERVATIVE REPUBLICANS who look at CAMPS 1 and 2 and grumble, HERE THEY GO AGAIN.

Then there is that Fourth group who sees GOD separating group after group. Threshing and winnowing in ways very few discern in THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT. I am one of these. Many who are in this last group KNEW something was happening far and beyond What most were saying. They just did not have a template to see how things fit.

THE LAKELAND WHATEVER is just a CIRCUS. THE MOST HIGH GOD told us it was coming, and what HE WAS GOING TO DO ABOUT IT.

Some will argue all I have said. But I have two scriptures that bear witness.

Eze 33:30 Also, thou son of man, the children of thy people still are talking against thee by the walls and in the doors of the houses, and speak one to another, every one to his brother, saying, Come, I pray you, and hear what is the word that cometh forth from the LORD.
Eze 33:31 And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee [as] my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, [but] their heart goeth after their covetousness.
Eze 33:32 And, lo, thou [art] unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.

I can not say that people are not being entertained by THIS CIRCUS. But that does not help with the reality we are in.

Isa 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:
Isa 30:9 That this [is] a rebellious people, lying children, children [that] will not hear the law of the LORD:
Isa 30:10 Which say to the seers, See not; and to the prophets, Prophesy not unto us right things, speak unto us smooth things, prophesy deceits:
Isa 30:11 Get you out of the way, turn aside out of the path, cause the Holy One of Israel to cease from before us.
Isa 30:12 Wherefore thus saith the Holy One of Israel, Because ye despise this word, and trust in oppression and perverseness, and stay thereon:
Isa 30:13 Therefore this iniquity shall be to you as a breach ready to fall, swelling out in a high wall, whose breaking cometh suddenly at an instant.

AMEN
SELAH
olddog