The Sheeps - series

Dead Sheep                           - 8/1996 - Vision/Prophecy

Scattered Sheep                   - 3/2002 - Vision

The Slaughter Pens              - 6/2004 - Vision

Fighting Sheeps                   - 11/2004 - Article

Just A Flock                         - 11/2004 - Article

Response To Tina Dyer      - 11/2007 - Prophecy

 

Dead Sheep

Bob Neumann, Sunday 8/25/1996

In the Morning Service I received a “Word” but had no release. The main content was covered by the three words given and the message preached. Early during Evening Service Worship I found myself in an open-eyed vision. I was in a vast field and in the field were the carcasses of sheep. My Field of Vision was filled with bloated bodies covered by flies. The stench of old blood was unmistakable. The carcasses were torn but no signs of missing limbs or organs. What killed the sheep did so out of pleasure, not hunger. “This need not have happen.” Stated the Voice of the Good Shepherd, my Master.

As I turned around I saw the hinder parts of many sheep, for in a great circle the sheep stood facing their Shepherd. What separated the sheep from the carcasses, the living from the dead was to me but a few paces. And suddenly a sense of grief that was unbearable as the Shepherd restated, “This need not have happened.” And quietly the Spirit repeated the message from the morning. “The storm comes, but too many of My children are caught up in the little squalls that disrupt their lives. My children know of Me, not as I desire, but as they limit Me. If they knew Me as part of their lives they would stride through their troubles and not submit to them. Because they do not submit to My will they become prey to all that rises against them. “If they would focus the eyes of their spirits on My Spirit I would protect and provide for them. But My sheep know My Voice, but pay little attention to the Words I Speak. For it is My Words that give life, strength, and freedom.

That is why the enemy seeks to distract My Sheep who hear My Voice, but not My Words. For if he distract you, you loose sight of Me, and I Am your Salvation!” “Keep your eyes on Me children and obey My Words. They are not spoken lightly. For once you are distracted you loose sight and sound of Me. For in this place of distraction the enemy sows seeds of doubt and despair where My Word Should Be. Once you submit to his lies what little strength of spirit you may have is dissipated and you are vulnerable to deception. Once deceived the enemy will seek to destroy and devour you. That is what the enemy's desires are, for that is his nature.” “Seek Me and live, follow Me and you will “prosper”, serve Me and learn to overcome.”

(This is where the Morning Word Ended, but the Spirit continued to speak)

“But My “people” worship Me with their mouths and not from their hearts. Look at those who “worship” Me in fullness, and those who follow along. Those who spend themselves will not be distracted by the winds of life, the Storm shall not harm them. Those who go through the motions are battered by breezes, how will they weather the Storm? Will they remember Me now, or when their lives are in the enemy's hands? It matters little, son, for I Am More than Able. More than Able in all things that concern My people and My Bride.”

 

 

 

Scattered Sheep

Bob Neumann, 3/2002

Sometimes I hear things very clearly, but there are times where everything is “seen” and little actually said. This is one of those. And the many scriptures that came after the “vision” the reason why THE SHEPHERD said so little was it has all been said.

One of the first dreams/visions I ever was given was of THE GOOD SHEPHERD and THE FLOCK. If one would wish to equate FLOCK with CHURCH, it can be done. The only problem is THE COMMUNITY of the SAINTS should be functioning according to THE KINGDOM RULES. The fact that it is not may be an explanation of the need for this vision in this day.

Like many times before I was “moving” across open land, “pasture land”. Place where sheep and cattle could graze was my first impression. And immediately I “caught” the difference in the IMAGE. I had no recollection of any vision or dream where “cattle” were seen. The fact that I realized this at the very beginning made me aware that this was “something different”. What was also different was that I had no sense of my own reality. Was I running on four legs or two was my first question. And “running” was the only mode I could relate to because I was covering ground very rapidly. I also noticed I was seeing everything in a very narrow field of vision. As through a telescopic site or even a periscope.

Add it all together and I was very “on edge” and expecting the “unexpected”. So I kept moving watching and anticipating. But the first thing that happened was I heard some weak “bleating” and moved to the sound. In a thicket I saw a ewe and a lamb by themselves. She was very weak and the lamb lay on the ground. As I came towards her she looked up at me without moving, just bleating weakly. In my spirit I felt her “words” asking me “where were you?” She was not addressing a sheepdog, for as I reached down to pick up the lamb I saw BLACK ARMOR.

As I picked up both ewe and lamb I “knew” the problem. Mama was dehydrated and baby had no milk. I looked in all directions and saw no other sheep. And I wondered “where did they come from?” And for the first time I heard THE MASTER’S VOICE.... “WHERE THEY CAME FROM IS NOT THE ISSUE, THE ISSUE RIGHT NOW IS WHERE DO YOU NEED TO TAKE THEM?”

With that I began to move quickly and after a short time came across a small stream.

There I let Mama drink a little and washed both their faces. And I knew that this was not where I had to go. So once again “we” were running. After awhile I came to a glade where several sheep milled around with two lambs. So I found water for Mama in the glade with rich green grass and two sources of milk for Baby if I could figure out how to milk a sheep with gauntlets on. But the predicament was a mute point because a ewe came over to me and allowed Baby to feed. Her lamb did not like the competition, but held back. After awhile the second ewe came over.

My first thought was “this is unnatural”. Ewes do not do this. With that thought sliding through my mind I “felt” HIS PRESENCE.... But I could not see HIM. This too was different. VERY DIFFERENT. So if the dog can “smell” THE MASTER... then THE SHEEP here were safe. And I knew I had to move on.

If anything I was now faster and covered miles rapidly. Over hill and dale I kept finding sheep. A couple here, one there. Some old ewes and some lambs. All scattered all over the place. Then it hit me...the sheep were scattered and I could not “find” THE SHEPHERD. But HIS PRESENCE was all around.

So I stopped and looked around. It was like I could see from one end of the earth to the other. HIS SHEEP were everywhere. But THERE WAS NO FLOCK....and they sure were not milling around HIM as in visions past.

So I stopped and waited. I felt no sense to move farther for I had seen what I was supposed to see. All I had was the question... WHERE DO I NEED TO TAKE THEM? But there was no answer because I knew that HE WOULD GATHER HIS FLOCK.... and right now there was no place to take any of them. Especially now that Mama and Baby were taken care of. So I wondered and prayed. And THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT just started flowing verses by me.

A whole lot of EZEKIEL...

5 And they were scattered, because there is no shepherd: and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered.

6 My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.

12 As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

When this last verse came to mind I looked up at the sun, there was not a cloud in the sky. But my armor was BLACK. There was no LIGHT to reflect on it. Once again Isaiah’s words about the deep darkness came by, as did Joel’s description of THE DAY OF THE LORD. And another image came by.... about cattle.... And I had to look it up and it was right with the Ezekiel 34 stuff I recognized....

I will seek that which was lost, and bring again that which was driven away, and will bind up that which was broken, and will strengthen that which was sick: but I will destroy the fat and the strong; I will feed them with judgment.

17 And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge between cattle and cattle, between the rams and the he goats.

Strange that HE will judge cattle as HE DOES SHEEP AND GOATS. I wondered how many times had I studied Ezekiel 34 and never saw the “cattle”.... Was I too focused on the false shepherds? But at the time I was reminded of another verse...

7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

But this one bothered me and as other verses came by I held onto it, unsure why. After while and many verses on sheep and shepherds I felt the “flow” end, but I had no peace.

So I prayed some more, waited some more. But THE SHEPHERD did not speak. And this was beginning to bother me. AND I HEARD ABBA’S VOICE... “DOES THE ARMOR CHAFE YOU SON? HE ASKED.

“No ABBA, but I am worried about THE SHEEP?

“WHY?”

“Because there is no SHEPHERD and they are scattered all over....”

“ALL OVER THE WORLD SON”, HE STATED softly cutting off my response and finishing it for me.

“IT IS WRITTEN THAT THEY WOULD BE SCATTERED SON. IT IS ALSO WRITTEN THAT THERE IS A PURPOSE TO EVERY TIME AND SEASON. UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE AND IT WILL BECOME CLEAR.”

And that was it. The vision ended with me chewing on one verse...because I was “missing something”.... So I went looking for it... and found it... and was set back by it....

Zechariah 13

1 In that day there shall be a fountain opened to the house of David and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem for sin and for uncleanness.

2 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered: and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.

3 And it shall come to pass, that when any shall yet prophesy, then his father and his mother that begat him shall say unto him, Thou shalt not live; for thou speakest lies in the name of the LORD: and his father and his mother that begat him shall thrust him through when he prophesieth.

4 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the prophets shall be ashamed every one of his vision, when he hath prophesied; neither shall they wear a rough garment to deceive:

5 But he shall say, I am no prophet, I am an husbandman; for man taught me to keep cattle from my youth.

6 And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends.

7 Awake, O sword, against my shepherd, and against the man that is my fellow, saith the LORD of hosts: smite the shepherd, and the sheep shall be scattered: and I will turn mine hand upon the little ones.

8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.

9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God.

If you noticed I put red letters in Zechariah because THE MASTER is responding. Verse 6 has one of those Hebrew original language where an untranslated word appears but we do not see it in English. It is a prophecy of MESSIAH. It is a very heavy scripture that speaks more than once. Verse 2 refers to THE DAY OF THE LORD... Verse 3 speaks of the exposure and condemnation of the false prophets... and their execution.

Verse 4 goes along with that... but Verse 5 has a double take... and talks about cattle.... IF ABBA OWNS ALL THE CATTLE ON THOSE THOUSAND HILLS.... Who watches them? Verses 7,8 & 9 talks about the near future.... And the REFINERS FIRE...

The sheep are scattered all over the world. Some are dying of thirst. Some are starving for some grass to munch. Some are being devoured by wolves in the wilderness.... and some by wolves in the sheepfold. And the wolves in sheep’s clothing can slaughter huge numbers because the sheep are penned up.

Maybe we have to be sheep scattered here and yon.... I am chewing on a lot right now.... .... Not sure where it leads...

Selah

Bob

 

 

 

The Slaughter Pens

Bob Neumann, June 1, 2004

On Saturday Morning May 22nd I had a powerful vision. The reasons for delaying the posting of this vision are three fold. First is the present state of the American Church and it's state of heavy slumber. One has to be both awake and sober to distinguish the meaning of the trumpet call. Second is the flow of THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT in relation to the images that have been quickened in my spirit. Maybe you can call it DIVINE TIMING.

From the images from the movie THE DAY AFTER TOMMORROW, to songs in my spirit, to watching old movies around the image of MEMORIAL DAY. THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT has used this time in the past with me, so in hind sight everything seems crystal clear.

The Third was that after this vision I realized there were aspects that needed meditation, council, and “2 or 3 witnesses”..... and one of these would be a FALSE WITNESS. Which goes back to another old song. That comes later. So let's go to the VALLEY OF VISION.

 

The Slaughter Pens

(Just the title I have been told to use is a quandary. Usually when given a vision of this magnitude, at least I believe it is of great magnitude, I place little or no interpretation upon it. Today that changes. Let the reader be lead by THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT in all things).

I found myself looking toward the sunrise. I was sitting on a fence post seeing a glow in the eastern sky. I immediately thought of Malachi 4 when I realized I was hearing soft bleatings of sheep. I looked around me and there were sheep in every direction. But they were in pens.

The post I was sitting on was one of many in precise position with one another. What I was seeing was a grid work of pens made from wooden rails. Inside each pen were crammed sheep.

At the time I did not notice how quiet the sheep were. Yes, I had heard bleating. But not many sheep were making “noise”. I tried to count the number of several pens but I kept getting distracted. The sheep were so tightly packed they could not move. So counting should not have been a problem, but I could not concentrate. And I knew it. Something was interfering. So I kept moving from pen to pen. Sometimes I walked on the rails, and sometimes on the back of the sheep.

At that point the level of perception became clearer as I kept moving. I noticed that each pen held separate breeds of sheep. One pen held tan colored sheep and another held white sheep with black faces. One had short fleece, another had long. The immediate thought I had was “segregated”. No pen had diverse sheep in it. And then I came to a pen where the sheep all had a splash of paint on their hind quarters. One pen was red, another blue, another green, and so on. All were basic white sheep. The only difference was the marking someone had put on them. Later I found a pen without any markings, no paint. So I went into the pen.

Here I noticed two things. First was the sheep here were white like those with paint. But each had a “tag” clipped to their left ear. It was not very big, but all the sheep of that pen had them.

Later I would find other pens with “tagged sheep”. The SECOND thing I noticed was that my “size” was not right. I was walking on two legs but the sheep were HUGE. If I was my normal human size. Canine and human are the two possibilities I have learned in the VALLEY OF VISION... but this was different.

When I realized this I found another fence post and sat to think. Again I looked to the east where the color was brighter, but the SUN had not come over the horizon. And in my spirit I heard the words “FALSE DAWN”. Now false dawn is that period of time where night is cut through by the LIGHT OF THE APROACHING SON. Yes I just flipped SUN with SON. I know HE IS COMING, BUT HE IS NOT HERE YET.... as in REVELATION 19.

As I said I sat and pondered what I was “seeing” and what I was “hearing”. Yes, the sky was brighter but not a whole lot. So “time” had passed very slowly as I had wandered around the pens. What I thought had been a few hours of slow searching had been but a minute. So I knew my “seeing” was altered. And I thought that I had better listen as clearly as I could. So I went once again into my “watching and listening” mode. I saw sheep in pens, I heard bleating. And then I “heard” something else. It was a “murmuring” I could barely hear. But it was there. And it “seemed” to be coming from my left. Which made it coming from THE NORTH.

So I started to move in that direction. The murmuring was not getting any louder. But I could discern an occasional word. So I kept moving. After awhile I noticed there was “something” there, but was hard to “see”. Eventually I could make out a building. It was fairly large, at least 2 stories tall. As I began to “see” the building more clearly, I began to “hear” more clearly. The “voice” was deep and slow. It was also repetitive. “Be quiet”... “obey”... “do as you're told”.... “do not question”.... “do not worry”...

I knew the “voice” originated from the building. I approached the building from the east. To the right of the building I saw the end of the lines of pens. The building was the northern wall to many pens, but there is an open area along the east side of the building. But I can see posts and rails along the side of the building. The fencing narrowed as it moved along the side of the building. I realized that the fencing was there to funnel the sheep into the building. At this point I became aware that this was a slaughter house. It was too big for a shed for shearing... and many of the sheep had been recently sheared.

So I started to move around the southern wall to the building.

Eventually I saw a window above the sheep. I also became aware that the “voice” seemed to be behind that window. So I moved towards the window.... moved, flew, teleported... I do not know.

But I was looking through the window and there was “something” there. Now I noticed the window could not be opened. It was glass and frames... solid. So I went through it......

And found myself standing and looking down at this thing. It was sitting in lotus position on a raised dias. It wore a robe similar to hindu or buddhist monks. And I had an image come to my spirit. The image was from an old movie called “GUNGA DIN”. As this image the thing stopped it's “mumbling” and looked up at me. That “mumbling” is what I had been hearing. A controlling mantra that had been controlling the sheep.

“You can not kill me!”, the thing screeched. The deep voice was now a weak high pitched screech.

And suddenly I had a second image... GOLLUM from the LORD OF THE RINGS movies. So I had interposed the images of the fully evil GOLLUM with the SWAMI from GUNGA DIN. He was the religious leader of the cult of KALI... the THUGS.

Now I can think about these images slowly and clearly. At the time I simply took a few steps towards the thing and squatted down. Even then I was looking down at it.

“You cannot stop me”, he screeched.

I noticed the evil and insanity in it's eyes. Like GOLLUM it was a perverse parody of human.

I knew it was not human. Not even close.

“YOU DO NOT WIN”, I stated the obvious.

But it's answer was strange. “The outcome is still in question.”

“THE OUTCOME WAS SET FROM THE SETTING OF THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD”.

That produced a scathing verbal attack I will not bother anyone with. But one thing stood out. In the diatribe it said “you naked monkey...”. Now I had heard that before. But was not sure where. The only thing that came to me was.... “IS THAT ALL THERE IS?”....

And I recalled ISAIAH 14.....

And I remember chuckling to myself.... and the THING became silent....

And I stood up and walked to and through the broken window....

And I was awake.

Now I can sit back and ponder.....

So this was the “ASCENDED MASTER” the NEW AGERS channel....

So this was the “DISTRACTION” that messed up my “seeing” and “hearing” early in the vision.

So this is what rebelled against THE MOST HIGH GOD.

So this is what the church tries to bind and cast down/out over and over and over....

It said I could not “kill” it.... but I was not sent to kill anything.

It said “the outcome was in question”... but IT IS WRITTEN.

It said I was a “naked monkey”.... had to look it up.... google was no help...

So I asked THE LORD where this thread came from. Eventually I got an image of a ranting Christopher Walken... and I had it... or part of it... a movie called THE PROPHECY.

In it Walken is the angel GABRIEL. Lucifer is actor Viggo Mortensen.... from THE LORD OF THE RINGS. Funny, I really do not remember the movie, so it is probably not important.

Just a bunch of images. WEIRD IMAGES... TRUE...... and coincidences...

Walken and Mortenson....

Then there was Victor McLAGLEN in GUNGS DIN...and all 3 John Ford westerns with the bugle calls. In all 4 movies old Victor was a soldier... each time was a sergeant... and twice SERGEANT-MAJOR. So you put it all together... THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW... REVELATION 19.

The “thing” of evil insanity that thinks it can stop REVELATION 19 from coming....

And ISAIAH 14.... “FALSE DAWN”.... Lucifer.....…

16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

17 That made the world as a wilderness, and destroyed the cities thereof; that opened not the house of his prisoners?

That last part.... about not opening the “HOUSE OF HIS PRISONERS”.... the SLAUGHTER PENS....

Isaiah 61

1 The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound;

2 To proclaim the acceptable year of the LORD, and the day of vengeance of our God; to comfort all that mourn;

3 To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified.

Isaiah 61:1-3 is all one sentence. Yet we have split it into many parts.

Now I have “sat” on this for days. I sent out two posts about THE DAY AFTER TOMORROW.

But I got my confirmations... all 3. The two intercessors who gave me council supplied the “sources” for two witnesses. The third came when I went to verify the FALSE CONFIRMATION.

The SECOND TRUE WITNESS came from STEPHEN AND NOHELIA BENNING.

THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT is telling us to take notice.

WHO WILL?

Selah

Bob Neumann

 

 

 

Fighting Sheeps

Bob Neumann, Sun Nov 21, 2004 1:43 pm

Dear Sheep,

I know it is a hard thing to be a violent minded sheep. Yet we know from HIS WORD that we should beaware of our circumstances: And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force. We can talk about things like "Binding the strong man" but untill you see that it takes force to do it, little is really accomplished. Regrettably few truly understand that it is not by might or power that we prevail in the battles we find ourselves in. It is THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT that brings us to THE PLACE OF VICTORY. Victory over our flesh, over our thoughts, over our emotions. JESUS said if you want ETERNAL LIFE you pick up your own cross and follow HIS STEPS up the hill to the place of execution. John the Baptist said that he had to decrease so that JESUS who followed could increase. You have to die to live. You have heard it over and over...but it means nothing till you bend down and pick up your cross. AND THEN YOU FOLLOW. SHEEP FOLLOW BECAUSE THEY KNOW HIS VOICE. HE LEADS THEM to still waters and safe pastures...but THEN HE PREPARES A TABLE...in the enemy's face...somewhere THE SHEEP HAVE CHANGED!

How do you make SHEEP and LAMBS into violent kingdom takers? How do you explain to a little lamb that it has to put on THE WHOLE ARMOR....one piece at a time. THEN TELL IT TO STAND ALL THE WILES the enemy has in his bag of tricks.

You figure a WATCHMAN "knows" his job. Except for ABRAM and Samuel...and maybe Moses...prophets were somewhat wussie. Maybe spent too much time on the run, or in caves, or in cisterns. Let me take that back about Daniel...he stood up against Kings of both Babylon and Persia. Got to give him credit...

Now we do have Joshua and Caleb...and David and Jonathan. But we can not really look at them as "prophets." Plainly they were just men of war....which is maybe what we need today. Just simple straight forward men who put it all on the line because they knew it was what they were supposed to do. Actually there were a few gutsy gals back then too… Deborah, Rahab, and Jael....and Hadassah.... can't forget her.

If we just had some wild and wooly sheep....selah dog

 

 

 

Just A Flock...

Bob Neumann, 11/2004

Years ago i watched a program on PBS about SHEEP RAISING. Surprising that people raise sheep in a whole lot of different places. In ancient times each society developed the "technology" of efficient SHEEP PRODUCTION according to the environment they had to survive in. In Mongolia they rode horses. In the Pyrannies it was on foot. But they all traveled with the sheep wherever graizing was available. So herding sheep was not a good vocation for people who wanted to build cities and establish civilization. In the program it showed where corporations had invested in huge numbers of sheep and how modern technology was being used. Trucks and motorbikes and helicopters all had there place. Computers and microchips and genetic manipulation was the obvious future. But then they showed men and women walking amoung the sheep. It seems technology was not enough to insure profitability. In fact sheep, while profitable, were still labor intensive. Seems that one human with a dog or two was needed for the care of every 60 sheep when the ewes were ready to give birth. Then you wound up with 100 sheep and made things just a bit harder.

One HUMAN...60 sheep seems to be an old pattern. Actually a time proven pattern. Of course if your flocks grew you needed more workers. Children could "watch" sheep. Agriculture has always been a "family" centered business. AND...you could trust family more than someone hired for a few months.

I guess that was why David found himself out with his FAMILY ASSETS at an early age. Older brothers get to sleep in the tent....runt freezes out alone with smelly, stupid sheep. Maybe THE LORD had been working on David as HE HAD Lydia...think about it. What would it take to get a 14 year old to come up with..."THE LORD IS MY SHEPHERD....I SHALL NOT WANT...".…

Just think about the Psalms that touch you deeply. For some reason we all have a time or a place where each of us is sitting right with him as he sang UNTO THE LORD. We all have sung "OUT OF THE DEPTHS I CRY UNTO YOU OH LORD...".

So when JESUS says "I AM THE GOOD SHEPHERD" HE was painting a vivid picture of HIS RELATIONSHIP with/to HIS OWN SHEEP. Now the biggest office in any church today is usually called a "pastor"....which is just a funky title for someone who is supposed to watch over and protect SHEEP.

One of the strangest places in scripture to me is in

John 21:15 So when they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me more than these? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again the second time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? He saith unto him, Yea, Lord; thou knowest that I love thee. He saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
17 He saith unto him the third time, Simon, son of Jonas, lovest thou me? Peter was grieved because he said unto him the third time, Lovest thou me? And he said unto him, Lord, thou knowest all things; thou knowest that I love thee. Jesus saith unto him, Feed my sheep.
18 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, When thou wast young, thou girdest thyself, and walkedst whither thou wouldest: but when thou shalt be old, thou shalt stretch forth thy hands, and another shall gird thee, and carry thee whither thou wouldest not.

Ignoring the variance of the GREEK terms for love used in these verses, this is a strange conversation. Peter, although a fisherman, was probably not completely ignorant of sheep and the care they require. Peter knew that sheep grazed and lambs suckled their mother's milk. So i ask myself how Peter reacted to this questioning...just as they were on the MT of Olives. In a few hours JESUS was arrested and Peter would deny HIM.

So do you think Pete properly discerned the metaphor of SHEEP and LAMBS being an allusion to THE BELIEVERS that would "FLOCK" into the assembly of the BRETHERN? I don't. By Acts 2&3 i think Pete figured it out… with a little help from THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT.

To be responsible for 60-100 sheep and lambs is a whole lot of hard work in the NATURAL. So it also is in the SPIRITUAL. So how do you watch, guard, feed, and do whatever THE MOST HOLY SPIRIT requires for a "flock" of 1500 sheep and lambs? One man or woman can not.

So if you wonder why "in the spirit" you "see" lots of diseased and starving sheep, you are not alone. Lost and dying sheep are too too many. And carcases covered with flies is an image i can never forget.

So for all of you who have thought i have had a problem with pastors and the amerikan church system, you are right. I know and love many who work long and hard in their job because they are "shepherds". Any good sheep dog can tell a shepherd from a heirling. Too often the stench of "dragon" is obvious.....but only to the dog(s).

So once again i ask the WPA...what do we do about the "wolves in sheep's clothing"....it's almost 3 years since i first asked…

selah
dog

 

 

 

Response To Tina Dyer

Bob Neumann, 11/2007

Dear Miss Tina, When I got home this morning I found your post in my mailbox. It had sat there three days till I went back on line. I have read it 4 times now since first finding it. Each time I have read it, the INTENSITY of THE LAMB has vibrated through me and I yearned to HEAR HIS COMMENT.... And I knew it would be hard.

CHILD YOU SAY "WOE, WOE, WOE", BUT IS IT NOT WRITTEN Woe unto them that join house to house, [that] lay field to field, till [there be] no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!

DID I NOT ALSO SAY...Of a truth many houses shall be desolate, [even] great and fair, without inhabitant.

YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE ME LAY DESOLATE MANY WHO HAVE HIDDEN BEHIND SKINS OF MY LAMBS. MY LAMBS HAVE BEEN KILLED AND SKINNED SO THEY MAY ABIDE AMONG YOU AS THEY HAVE RAPED AND PILLAGED SO MANY OF MY PRECIOUS ONES.

CHILD YOU CALL OUT FOR MINE TO DRAW NEAR IN THIS HOUR. LET ME SAY TO YOU CHILD MY SHEEP HEAR MY VOICE AND FOLLOW ME TO SAFETY. I ALSO TELL YOU MY SERVANTS, WHO HAVE WALKED THROUGH THEIR FLOODS AND THEIR FIRES WITH ME KNOW THAT SOMETHING IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN. YOU SAY "HUGE" CHILD....INDEED IT IS. BUT WERE YOU NOT IN ANTICIPATION OF IT? YEARNING FOR IT?

IS IT NOT WRITTEN.... "Woe unto them that draw iniquity with cords of vanity, and sin as it were with a cart rope: That say, Let him make speed, [and] hasten his work, that we may see [it]: and let the counsel of the Holy One of Israel draw nigh and come, that we may know [it]! THEY THAT CAN SEE WHAT I DO, DO NOT MOCK ME. THEY STAND BEFORE ME IN FEAR AND TREMBLING FOR THEY KNOW ME WELL

IS IT NOT WRITTEN.... Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! THE MOCKERS ARE AMONG YOU AND YOU GIVE THEM PLACE BECAUSE TOO MANY OF MY LAMBS FEAR MAN AND NOT ME.

IS IT NOT WRITTEN WOE TO ALL WHO ARE WISE IN THEIR OWN EYES, WHO COUNT THEIR ACTIONS AS PRUDENT WHEN I SEE ONLY COMPROMISE AND INIQUITY!

INDEED WHAT COMES NOW IS AS YOU SAY, "HUGE". MY SERVANTS THE PROPHETS, CALLED MY DAY GREAT AND TERRIBLE. IN MY ANGER THERE BURNS A GREAT INFERNO THAT WILL DO AWAY WITH ALL THE HAY AND STUBBLE. I AM THE CONSUMING FIRE THAT WILL NOT BE SURVIVED BY THOSE WHO HAVE SLAUGHTERED MY LAMBS AND DEFILED MY LITTLE ONES.

AS IT IS WRITTEN, SO SHALL IT BE.

SO I SAY TO MY WISE AND FAITHFULL SERVANTS, "REJOICE", FOR THE DAYS OF WAITING ARE OVER. "REJOICE" FOR THE APPOINTED TIME HAS COME. "REJOICE" BECAUSE I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS.

Selah, little sister

Bob Neumann